"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/03/2003 01:51:36 AM:
I nominate Sam Ruby whom I sometimes, often would be too strong of a word, disagree with but always respect his integrity and belief in community-based software development. I too would like to see some changes, but Sam has outlined, several times, most of the changes that I'd actually like to see. The remainder of which, I'm not certain that the Jakarta community of the whole has control over.
One change I do not wish to see are projects which specifically exclude Apache/Jakarta members due to the cult of personality of one of its participants, even its prinicipal participant. Personally, I mark my graduation from pre-pubescence not on any biological definition rather the day that I learned to work in close quarters with those whom my personality or personal philosophy disagreed with or to extract myself from the situation rather than the other way around.
Could you please elaborate on how these projects have achieved these aims under the current PMC?
I'm very interested in where Apache/Jakarta members have been/are currently excluded, and how the new PMC will stop this from happening.
Given the context, I can only presume that Andy was referring to emails such as this one [1]. If I am incorrect, I expect Andy will correct me.
How will the new PMC stop this from happening? I have not specified a timetable for this change to occur (I am being very careful and deliberate in the evolotion of the current structure of Jakarta to conform to the wishes of the ASF board), but the direction Jakarta is heading is to make the release votes of any software from Jakarta to be the purvue of the PMC. In other words, only PMC members can issue binding votes on such matters. Note that such votes are by design majority votes, so are not subject to veto.
Before this change occurs, I have been supporting the efforts of various subprojects to become independent projects, and to significantly expand the membership of the Jakarta PMC.
Furthermore, I expect that the resolution to establish the Maven PMC will be satisfactorily resolved long before the change I describe above is put into place.
Note: even if there is a chairman change for Jakarta, the chairman would still need to address the same concerns of the ASF board in this matter.
-- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au
[1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-general&m=104448400328715&w=2
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