I wrote: | Is the NDA under NDA? Or can someone post a copy? Ok, there's no separate NDA, it's part of the standard agreements:
http://jcp.org/en/participation/membership Follow-up questions: 1. Is there an Apache-specific, public archive of JCP discussion, including the negotiation of JCP 2.5? This seems to exclude [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Is there a [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? If not, one could be culled from the archives of other lists. 2. Is there an Apache-specific, public archive of the discussion that preceded the decision to make [EMAIL PROTECTED] non-public ? Pier wrote: | >Most of the times, in my experience, it all comes down to how "receptive" | >the spec lead is in regards to new ideas coming from outside, and how much | >"weight" he has in his company (the JSR sponsoring company)... | > | >But my experience is too little to say what happens more often. Are there any metrics on the "performance" of spec leads, besides: http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/withdrawn.html http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/rejected.html Apache has tools that provide quantitative feedback on the development process. Can any of these be adapted to provide quantitative feedback on the post-public spec development process, using historical (public) data? Spec leads need to be JCP members and there's a $5K threshold for commercial companies. That's a large gap between Tier $0 (Apache and fully open) and Tier $5K (JCP and open/closed per above cited agreements). Is there a subset of Apache members who represent smaller commercial companies, who won't/can't incur the JCP overhead, but who wish to give their customers the benefits of inter-vendor portability and test compliance? Rich --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]