On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:>
[I like "Turbineers". :-) ]
I am one of them, and I did some discussion about JCS @ ApacheCon with Martin Poeschl (who seems to do the odd fix to JCS because he uses it in Torque), another Turbineer. We basically were came to the same conclusion as robert:
- JCS is cute and should have a larger exposure - JCS isn't related at all to Turbine. At most it is related to Torque - JCS could be moved to db.apache.org but it is not really database specific - There is (almost) no resistance to move this project out of Turbine.
So my vote is
It might be a bit early for a vote, everyone not having the same amount of information and all. But seeing as how you prefixed the email POLL, I'm not complaining. ;)
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Jakarta Commons or the Incubator have been my preference for some time now. The Incubator seems like a more appropriate place, as JCS could use some life breathed into it, but it is in use so shouldn't somehow end up in the "retired" bin without giving existing projects warning and opportunity to migrate away. Of course, JCS might actually be close to "done", too (though it does still exhibit its share of bugs).
If JCS really catches on, we can still move it back to Jakarta as "Jakarta JCS".
Yes.
This all makes sense to me, and coming from a Turbineer, it's something I would support.
It might even provide a path to resolution for what we do with Commons Cache, which is currently in a coma (at best)...
Neither Torque and OJB are strictly database projects, and they yet are the poster children of db.apache.org. Is db.apache.org more of a "persistance, caching, and storage meta data" TLP than a straight database project? If so, that's another place that either JCS or Commons Cache could find a more appropriate home.
- Dan
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