On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Costin Manolache wrote:
Or even better - since jakarta has a single PMC, it could also have a single list of committers ( most of them in the single PMC ).
Each PMC member can vote about any jakarta issue - including releases of each sub-project, etc. If the distinction between pmc and committer is fading, then I don't see why do we have to worry about separate karma.
A start could be to have every PMC member have karma in every subproject.
+1 to jakarta-wide karma.
It'd be interesting to look at all the mail-traffic for Jakarta and
estimate just how noisy a single project mail list would be.
It would be very noisy, indeed. Here are some stats from October (from message counts displayed at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com)
struts tomcat commons user 3115 2908 375 dev 759 1131 2112
Then maybe
instead of breaking it on code-base, we could break it on concept:
jakarta-bugs jakarta-announce jakarta-dev jakarta-pmc jakarta-ideas jakarta-site
or something. I'm assuming it'll be too noisy, but it is a logical question to ask based on Costin's ideas of opening things up.
I understand that the oversight role of the PMC has to include all of Jakarta and I agree that some form of list aggregation/digesting might need to happen to make this practical. I don't think that combining all of the lists is the right way to do it though. This would certainly be a pain for users and contributors who may be interested in only a small number of projects. One way to attack the problem might be to have PMC members who are committers on the different Jakarta projects share the responsibility of maintaining list digests for periodic (weekly?) review by the full PMC and/or alerting the full PMC of any issues that require immediate attention.
I guess the alternative would be for all of us to subscribe to all of the lists and take up speed reading ;-)
Apologies if this is old ground. I am new to the PMC.
Phil
Hen
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