Yep, I was wrong with '3 active committers', I've dropped the threeness
part from the proposed changes.

I'll plan to bring it up again at a later date under an oversight topic.

Hen

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Sam Ruby wrote:

> robert burrell donkin wrote:
> >>
> >>>> What about jakarta-oro?
> >
> > this illustrates well the point i was trying to make before.
> >
> > ORO is actually better supervised than several other sub-project i could
> > mention and yet because it doesn't have three active committers who are
> > PMC members, the proposed bylaws say that it must lack sufficient
> > oversight. if the pmc takes it's responsibilities seriously and adheres
> > to the letter of the proposed bylaws, the only possible sanction would
> > be to close the sub-project as soon as the number of active committers
> > on the pmc falls below three (since the bylaws state that it is
> > inadequately supervised).
>
> Oro is a good example.  dfs reviews every change.  Heck, he makes every
> change.  And the other three committers?  They are all ASF members.
>
> The one place that "threeness" is crucially important is on releases.
> It isn't so important that there are other PMC members overseeing the
> day to day operations, but it is vitally important that three people
> sign off on every release.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
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