Simon Kitching wrote:
Hi,

I've been a moderator for the bcel-dev@jakarta.apache.org and
bcel-user@jakarta.apache.org for a few months now. In that time there
have been 2 valid emails from people who weren't subscribed, and a few
thousand spam mails.

I'm rather tired of being a human spam filter for the mailing list. As
the ratio of bad to good emails is so high, I suggest that all mails
from unsubscribed users simply be discarded making moderation
unnecessary.

What's the general opinion about this?

I help manage tomcat-users and tomcat-dev, both high volume lists. We use the following policy for both lists:

- anyone can subscribe
- subscriptions are not moderated
- subscribers can post
- posts from non-subscribers are rejected

This works pretty well, the only things tending to go wrong are:
- genuine users not subscribing and not reading/understanding the reject message - less than 10 a week and easy to deal with - auto-responders managing to subscribe themselves to the list - again less than 10 a week and easy to deal with

The only time we have had real problems in the last 2 years has been when an auto-responder managed to get subscribed to the list and was replying to its own replies. This killed the list until my unsubscribe and deny-subscribe messages got through.

Whilst no system is perfect this works well for us and on most days I spend between 0 and 5 minutes dealing with list issues.

On the basis of my experience I see no need for moderation on xxx-user or xxx-dev lists. I can see a case for moderation of other lists such as xxx-committers etc.

Mark


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