I like #1 (removing svn restrictions). We occasionally identify bugs in the commons libraries used in Velocity - it'd be nice to be able to just go in and fix them.
I'm mildly positive on "all votes on general". A corollary of this would be to encourage everyone to sign up for general. Maybe put this in big letters on the Jakarta home page. It seems a good way to try out the "one community" idea, see if it fits. WILL On 3/5/06, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I started to write a long email on the problems in Jakarta, on > umbrellas, > > on the lack of a Jakarta community and existence only of subcommunities > > and on how it should be "there is no Jakarta Xxxx, you are members of > > Jakarta - not a subproject"; but you've heard it all before. > > > > So, proposal: > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Given that we are one project and that we should be acting as one > > community - I propose that we: > > > > 1) Remove SVN restrictions, all Jakarta committers can commit anywhere > in > > Jakarta, with the exception of the Commons-Sandbox as it allows Apache > > committers in general to commit. > > i think this is fine. it brings our practice more in line with the > legal realities of the organization. it adds potential for greater > cross-pollination and lower barriers to resuscitating dormant > projects. it's true that most of us committers are myopic and do > nothing with the greater freedom, but the potential is there for some > to more easily serve the community and their own needs through this. > > > 2) All vote threads to occur on the general@ mailing list; or the pmc@ > > mailing list if deemed private. > > if you want all non-private vote threads to be CC'ed to general@, > that's fine, but they must happen on the dev lists as well. i believe > there are many narrow, non-committer participants who give good > feedback and non-binding support who do not subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] i > am extremely reluctant to give that up. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Comments? > > > > The only negative I have for 1) is that I like to use the commit lists > to > > see who is on which subproject (for 3 PMC member oversight checking), > but > > that is a flawed idea anyway. The real way is to see who is voting on > > issues (especially releases) for that project. If it's an inactive > > project, the real way is to ask the -dev mailing list for 3 PMC replies > > else the subproject gets mothballed. > > > > Hen > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- _______________________________________ Forio Business Simulations Will Glass-Husain phone (415) 440-7500 x89 mobile (415) 235-4293 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.forio.com
