great article, i especially like this part:
"But what about the CS mission of CS departments? They're not vocational schools! It shouldn't be their job to train people to work in industry. That's for community colleges and government retraining programs for displaced workers, they will tell you. They're supposed to be giving students the fundamental tools to live their lives, not preparing them for their first weeks on the job. Right?"
once i remember students at psut were debating with a doctor, Dr. Khamis Omar to be exact, saying that they'd finish uni without any job related skill. all the other unis were teaching Oracle, Java, .Net but we were getting theories in db design and data structures in c!
the doctor was furious, he said that unis weren't a job training center and they shouldn't force you into learning "products" like oracle, java, .net. he argued that teaching concepts and sound algorithms would last longer than teaching a specific skill.
they couldn't get to an agreement. too bad they enforced .net and java into the curriculum these days. i guess they caved in to the pressure of preparing the next "work force" into the "market". as opposed to having thinkers we're gonna get more click-happy programmers.
on the funny side, let me quote this astonishing response, i'm gonna make it my slashdot signature!
"... CS teaching standards are not what they used to be.. sad but true -- Saleh Odeh"
dude you graduated like 4 months ago!? people reading this would think you handed in your cs homework on stone tablets! hehehe
"But what about the CS mission of CS departments? They're not vocational schools! It shouldn't be their job to train people to work in industry. That's for community colleges and government retraining programs for displaced workers, they will tell you. They're supposed to be giving students the fundamental tools to live their lives, not preparing them for their first weeks on the job. Right?"
once i remember students at psut were debating with a doctor, Dr. Khamis Omar to be exact, saying that they'd finish uni without any job related skill. all the other unis were teaching Oracle, Java, .Net but we were getting theories in db design and data structures in c!
the doctor was furious, he said that unis weren't a job training center and they shouldn't force you into learning "products" like oracle, java, .net. he argued that teaching concepts and sound algorithms would last longer than teaching a specific skill.
they couldn't get to an agreement. too bad they enforced .net and java into the curriculum these days. i guess they caved in to the pressure of preparing the next "work force" into the "market". as opposed to having thinkers we're gonna get more click-happy programmers.
on the funny side, let me quote this astonishing response, i'm gonna make it my slashdot signature!
"... CS teaching standards are not what they used to be.. sad but true -- Saleh Odeh"
dude you graduated like 4 months ago!? people reading this would think you handed in your cs homework on stone tablets! hehehe
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