thank you Devon 

the Pi 50 worked, as did the Pi 60  as did the Pi 70 as long as I left that 
space between the Pi and the 50 etc

I used the Pi=:(2: .... expression

impressive!

some day I might even understand what I copied from you, or does one require a 
PH D in math/computing and be in the top fraction percentile of intelligence as 
well.

thanks

Dick
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