Thanks all the way around! I have 'J' working on two pocket pc's and a smartphone as well as pc's and mac book pro. So I am never without it.
a delight! (and all for free!) but in no case did i get it to show up under the 'programs' like my other apps but instead need to hunt for it under 'file explorer' and 'bin' maybe next year it will also appear for i pod touch / i phone? thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
