wd and gtk are very different, using wd-emulator for migration to gtk is not only un-necessary and it needs an extra migration from wd-emulator to gtk.
wd-emulator does have advantages, 1. it is simple and familiar. 2. it is fast, and will not be slower than gtk or wd. 3. it is an open source implementation of wd, so users can modify or add new features. eg, add more widget events that should long have be done in the last decade(s). If there is enough user contribution, a third ide for J7 based on this wd-emulator is not impossible. I guess one would agree that it need not throwing away J602 and migrating its applications, unless clients ask and pay the bill. On the other hand develop new projects in J7, if there are any new projects ;-) Вск, 06 Фев 2011, Ian Clark писал(а): > I don't see the problem as one of providing a wd-like interface built on gtk. > Merely to enable old code to run somehow, anyhow. In a way that > facilitates migration to native gtk. > So where's the need to redesign wd? > > There must be masses of j scripts out there and the sheer person-hours > to migrate each one by hand to a new gtk gui -- however powerful and > flexible -- is not negligible. Not even for my collection. But until > that is done the script is useless. > > There is always the option to retain a (frozen) j602 installation to > run old utilities, but there is a downside to doing that. I'd much > rather move whole and entire to j701 without delay -- and discard my > j602. Even a macroprocessor to convert J scripts would be a boon, even > if it copped-out at difficult bits and left me to migrate them by > hand. 2 or 3 lines in my whole user library, I don't doubt. > > I'm not sure I wouldn't prefer a macroprocessor to a wd emulator. The > former can be used once per user for each script and soon discarded. > The latter will be a constant source of annoyance to both users and > vendor, generating endless requests for support. Just at the time > everyone wants to be exploring the new technology. > > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:26 AM, chris burke <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Ian Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > ... > >> This is due to change shortly. Just so soon as I can > >> take a good look at Bill's start at a wd-emulator. > > > > As mentioned before, wd needs a major redesign for gtk. Trying to > > shoehorn the gtk interface into the old design is not likely to work > > well. The main issue is the layout - gtk has a variety of tools for > > handling form layout automatically, while wd layout is hard coded. It > > would be a mistake to throw out gtk automatic layout in favour of wd > > hard coding. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
