>  it would be useful to know if there 
>  is anyone who likes Esc to close the 
>  session (with or without confirm)

I do.  I often use J as a scratchpad or for a quick calculation.  I like
this idea from Chris:

>  Whichever way the J session is closed using 
>  the Gui, there would be prompts only if there
>  are unsaved changes in the editor.

I have some ideas about how to structure an overall session management but
don't have time to write them up right now.

-Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Tikkanz
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:38 PM
To: General forum
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Keyboard shortcuts

Yes, before we make a decision it would be useful to know if there is
anyone who likes Esc to close the session (with or without confirm).

Personally I like it for dismissing dialogs (e.g. File|Open, Find in
Files etc) but don't think it should close an application.

IOW, if noone feels strongly that the option to close the J Gtk IDE
using Esc is needed, then EscClose isn't needed. If there are
supporters then I'd support the EscClose (default 0) proposal.

I note that when I'm working on a problem I can have significant
amounts of work stored in the Term session that aren't captured by
making sure that scripts are saved.

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:02 AM, chris burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The Esc behaviour has always been supported in J, and was common at
>> one time in Windows apps, e.g. notepad2.
>>
>> I suggest that:
>>
>> ConfirmClose be removed. Whichever way the J session is closed using
>> the Gui, there would be prompts only if there are unsaved changes in
>> the editor.
>>
>> A new config option EscClose (default 0) allows Esc to close J if
enabled.
>
> If we think about this from a user point of view, I can see several
> options that might be useful:
>
> 1) Esc does not close, no confirm needed
> 2) Esc does close confirm needed beforehand
>
> Before I go further though, I have several questions:
>
> Can we have confirm on esc close but no confirm on click close
> button?
>
> On the other side of the fence, does anyone like esc close without
> confirm?  (Personally, as a VI user, I would never want this option,
> and would be happy with the "disable esc close" option.)
>
> Anyways, I am not making any specific suggestions, yet,
> except that I would prioritize ease of use above ease of
> implementation when deciding how to structure a user
> interface.
>
> --
> Raul
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