mutilated misquotes from Tim Wunder's 7 Apr 2005 classic prose
may follow:
" What do you mean by "dealing with each other?" Sorry, it seems to me
A good question, but the answer seems self-evident to me. 4x, you and I are 'dealing with each other' now. Do we give each other rational argument (persuasion) or some sort of force (flame, intimidation, etc)? These are mutually exclusive.
OK, I'll buy that, reason and force are mutually exclusive. The question lies in whether faith and reason are mutually exclusive.
" that in the case of men dealing with each other in interpersonal " relationships, faith and reason are not mutually exclusive, nor does " faith require force in such interpersonal interaction. Now if you mean " the political dealings of men, you might have raised a point worthy of " consideration. But I'd still tend to doubt your theory.
Well, I don't want you to take this as an 'appeal to authority' but, to my regret, I am not able to claim ownership of either side of this argument.
Again, 4x, "I have therefore found it necessary to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith." -Immanuel Kant, _Critique of Pure Reason_, see
http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/WestCiv/Kant.CP.html.
By knowledge, I believe he's referring to science, or the "knowledge of objects." While science may require reason, not all reason is scientific. Case in point would be the very reference you've given. It, in itself, is a reasoned argument of faith. As are many metaphysical discussions.
There are many more arguments on both sides, and there may be much better presentation and interpretation of Kant's elsewhere. The argument tends to become a bit lengthy and thick at times.
Thanks for the interesting read, nonetheless.
BTW, I still have faith that there is a God, and still believe myself to be someone who can interact reasonably with my fellow man.
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