On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Michael Hipp wrote: > Net Llama! wrote: >> Moving to general *AGAIN*. >> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Michael Hipp wrote: >> >>> Tony Alfrey wrote: >>>> Ken Moffat wrote: >>>> My grandchildren (who are not even alive yet by about 20 years) will be >>>> paying for the economic, political and cultural misdeeds and distortions >>>> of this administration. >>> *Did US history begin on January 1, 2000?* >> >> No, it basically ended on that date, when the Bush dictatorship started. > > No, that event was during Abraham Lincoln's tenure. > > You should perhaps read a bit more.
Of what exactly? >>> Your grandchildren will be paying for the misdeeds and distortions of >>> every congress and administration since at least FDR. Scratch that, >>> since Abraham Lincoln. >>> >>> I despise this administration. I voted for him twice and now I'm >>> counting the days until he is gone. But congress has been spending us >>> into oblivion for 50 years. Past administrations have recorded every >>> misdeed known to man. Name one of them that was an unqualified success. >> >> Congress's spending problems are hardly on the same scale as the >> destruction of democracy that has been perpetrated upon the American >> people by Bush & his cronies. The fact that you suggest that they are >> equivalent deeds just proves that you haven't learned a thing from your >> admitted mistake in voting for Bush. While bankrupting the futures of >> this country is certainly bad, it pales in comparison to rescinding >> Constitutional rights. > > And none of our constitutional rights had been trampled on before? We'd > been taxed to death. The first and second amendments gutted. Similarly > for states rights and property rights and right to a fair trial. All > this stuff accelerated - badly - under GWB's watch. But it is not at all > new. And in every case, there were no small number of Democrats in > congress who were glad to help him destroy our rights. > > And who will you vote for in 2008? And will it be less of a mistake than > my vote for (tooey) Bush in 00/04? And would my vote have been better > spent on that liar phony Kerry or Gore? errr, liar phony? Kerry definitely didn't impress me, but I can't fathom how he would have turned out worse than the current mess. As for Gore, he didn't run in 2004, in case you missed it. Granted, I doubt you paid much attention to that side of the ballot. At any rate, I can't really say who I'll vote for in 2008, seeing as how we don't even know who is going to be running, much less on the ballot. > I will vote 3rd party in 2 years. Any 3rd party. Or just not vote at > all. We simply must gut the 2-party system that continues to offer us > Satan and Satan Reloaded every 2 years in every election from the mayor > level on up. Actually, I think we can agree on that. 3rd party candidates seem quite appealing. Out here in California, 3rd party candidates actually get elected to office quite alot. Vote for the IOP today! http://www.inflatablewhale.com/ > >>> Is GWB a worse president than Clinton? Than Jimmy Carter? Than Nixon? >>> Than FDR? I dunno, it depends on which particular variety of evil >>> irritates you more. >> >> Crushing constitutional & civil rights is far worse than the evils >> committed by prior administrations. > > That's what *all* prior administrations did. Name one that didn't. And > don't forget that "the power to tax is the power to destroy". So you > can't separate crushing taxation and reckless spending from civil > rights. Lose one, lose the other. Sorry, I don't equate oppressive taxes with oppression of civil rights. One may lead to the other, however they are not one & the same. > The government has too much power. And they have it in large part > because they have too much of our money to spend to fund their trampling > of our civil rights. That's an interesting viewpoint. I can't say that I disagree, however the current administration seems to excel in trampling rights far more than those in the past. If you feel otherwise, then please cite specific examples. >>> In two short years GWB will be gone. And whoever replaces him from the >>> Demos or Repubs will be just as bad. Different, but just as bad. >>> >>> This isn't anything new. >> >> Only because you think this isn't anything new does this insanity >> continue. Its new, its bad, and its only going to get worse until people >> realize that. > > Some of us have realized that. And has it gotten better? I know lots of > people who despise Bush. So they'll show their monumental stupidity and > vote for a Democrat and the destruction will continue. As it has for > more than a hundred years. > > What's *your* solution? My solution is to get rid of Bush (impeachment would be ideal, but rather unlikely). Once that happens, I firmly believe alot will improve. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] LlamaLand http://netllama.linux-sxs.org _______________________________________________ [email protected] Unsub/Pause/Etc : http://mail.linux-sxs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general
