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To: [email protected]
Date: 22.03.2011 02:56:01
Subject: Re: [ArchServer-General] Proposal to APP


> Awesome!
> 
> About my proposal, i succeeded contacting my coleagues but the dissolution
> of the team is irreversible and i could not find anyone else within the BR
> group (the origin of the people involved is not a matter whatsoever).
> 
NP
> On the other hand, Shadowbranch is back and his work is far more complete of
> anything that i could provide, i believe AS could stick with what he'll
> provide.
> 
I would definitly like to see you onboard of our team, and I guess SB would 
need some help with this anyway, so why are you not just joining him in the 
creation of a APP for us?

> In the mean time,  i will work out on something that i could also use for my
> needs.
NP as well, but like I said, I would like to see you onboard. There are lots of 
other tasks still open in our project.
> 
> Sorry for the long delay on the answer, i was trying to reason with them
> 
> Cheers,
> --
> Eduardo Martins Lopes
> Laboratory of Theoretical Chemistry
> Universidade Federal de São Carlos,  SP - Brazil
> 

R,

Markus
> 
> 2011/3/16 Daniel Moree 
> 
> > The new version is not modular. The new cms is more a basic framework. The
> > app will be the primary focus of the release and will be fully imported into
> > the app git repo at the AS website.
> >
> > Eduardo Martins Lopes  wrote:
> >
> > >Hello all,
> > >
> > >Phillip: What would you require from us? What would the server deps be
> > like?
> > >You're planning to use PostgreSQL (or even better, be database-agnostic)?
> > >@Phillip: it's DB Agnostic as stated by Faelar, but the hosting service
> > >would need to have python available, ssh access and fascgi (it's possible
> > to
> > >use other cgi-like stuff).
> > >
> > >The big thing is, in my humble opinion, both solutions are tied to a
> > one-man
> > >show in some sort. Up to now, only one from my team has answered already,
> > so
> > >not a big group yet. Shadowbranch's solution will become available a bit
> > >faster than mine, though i would like to know more about this new release
> > >would require the cms frame.
> > >
> > >@Shadowbranch: does your new version depend on your cms? or it would be
> > able
> > >to run on it's own?
> > >
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >--
> > >Eduardo Martins Lopes
> > >Laboratory of Theoretical Chemistry
> > >Universidade Federal de São Carlos,  SP - Brazil
> > >
> > >
> > >2011/3/16 
> > >
> > >>   A quick look at the first file (admin.php) show me that :
> > >> - You're using global, which is usually not a good idea.
> > >> - You're calling the echo function many times, why not closing the
> > barket
> > >> and writing strait html instead ?
> > >> - You're embedding things likeand in the code, which is bad for
> > >> maintainability, and also are deprecated and should be managed by a CSS
> > or
> > >> template file instead.
> > >>
> > >> - Please comment your code ! How can we help if we don't know what the
> > >> program is supposed to do ?
> > >>
> > >>  Global is fine as the core of the CMS turns off registering globals as
> > >> that is a huge security whole and the only items globalized are config
> > >> information, a link to the database, and a link to the users class.
> > Again,
> > >> my CMS was written with security first, functionality second. So far it
> > has
> > >> proven more secure than any other CMS I've tested. But, the version in
> > >> current use has outgrown it's usefulness as a more advanced system.
> > Hence a
> > >> complete rewrite. Again focused on security first. The new rewrite will
> > >> effectively remove globalized variables, only 3 of which exist anyways.
> > >> I do call echo a lot and using straight HTML can make things simpler. I
> > >> think it's more a programmers choice. I've seen it all from programs
> > that
> > >> just appended to a variable that is then finally output to the browser
> > to
> > >> straight HTML that then has PHP plugged into it. I think all ways are
> > viable
> > >> and accomplish the same task. Really up to the programmer(s) in my
> > opinion.
> > >> True, CSS should maintain these items, which it does, only very very
> > >> limited items are used in the code to setup basic HTML elements that can
> > be
> > >> modified within the CSS. What you see is the initial rough draft that
> > was
> > >> not ment to be shown to the public. Hence no comments. I assure you my
> > code
> > >> is commented heavily.
> > >>  I'm open to ideas on the output method to use when dumping PHP.
> > >> Personally, I don't like to output straight HTML with PHP code plugged
> > in.
> > >> It prevents me from being able to make massive changes as my system only
> > >> uses the most basic HTML elements to show some of the data. There are
> > other
> > >> modules with virtually no HTML code. Over my 6 years of PHP I've found
> > that
> > >> echoing straight out when needed is efficient enough. I have tried
> > straight
> > >> HTML with PHP plugged in, so I'm not just stating from no knowledge.
> > I've
> > >> also tried dumping output to a global variable that is then output by
> > the
> > >> final processor command. It can be useful to do it that way, but I've
> > found
> > >> it harder to debug sometimes.
> > >>
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