On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:59:24 +0000 "Clark, Joel" <[email protected]> > said: > > agreed. it's rather embarrassing not to be able to self-host given that > tizen > is an entire OS. > > imagine if all the engineers and executives etc. at bmw drove fords because > "bmw's can't manage to get us to the office without breaking down". > > Awesome analogy. I am also against dropping 32 bit system support for dev tools. I bet many people I know use 32 bit system yet. Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) > we're not building specialized mining equipment. that won't get us to the > office. tizen is a general os. it has to be by its very nature. > > > It is disappointing that the tools for doing Tizen local builds are not > > expected to run on Tizen. I consider it an obvious hard requirement that > > should be tested regularly. > > > > Regards > > Joel > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jian-feng Ding > Sent: > > Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:39 AM To: Kok, Auke-jan H > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Tizen General] Tizen platform development tools survey : > > dropping 32bit linux support > > > > Hi, Auke > > > > The major reason of 32bit-linux-platform tools support dropping plan is > the > > qemu issue: we still have no stable 32bit qemu-static executable for > current > > Tizen, which is very important for the local build and image creation in > > 32bit development systems. > > > > And the future 64bit support of Tizen itself is only the last straw of > it. > > Whenever the 64bit Tizen development is the necessary part of developers' > > work, they can only use 64bit development environment. > > > > thanks > > - jf.ding > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:47:54PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Tomasz Olszak < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm opposed to this. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> 64bit support in Tizen is not yet mainstream at all, as a matter of > > > >> fact it's barely been implemented in 3.0, and no major release that > > > >> developers can use yet has happened. > > > >> > > > >> Can we maintain 32bit code until most developers have had a major > > > >> release on 64bit? It will be a significant amount of time until > > > >> that really happens. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I think that question concerns development tools (gbs, qemu and so > > > > on) not the architecture of Tizen. > > > > > > I was referring to this part that Zhang wrote: > > > > > > >> As Tizen will support 64bit build in the future, which can only be > > > >> built by >> using 64bit system, so it's recommended to switch to > 64bit > > > >> system ASAP. > > > > > > My argument is that this motivation is somewhat premature - we want to > > > use the tools on tizen itself (Zhang is not disputing that, nor am I) > > > but the notion that 64bit support in Tizen itself is mature and > > > everyone is using it (and gbs/mic on it) is obviously false. > > > > > > From that follows that 64bit tools on Tizen could not have been > > > extensively been tested. So why remove support for 32bit tools that > > > are being tested and used right now if nobody is yet using and testing > > > on 64bit? Sounds premature to me - the word "ASAP" certainly is. > > > > > > Auke > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/general > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/general > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/general > > > > > -- > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]> > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/general >
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