Yes, I also agree that this is the proper thing to do, if ever Axis2 is made a TLP.
Azeez On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Ruchith Fernando < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMHO Axis2 project as a TLP should be both Java and C. > > Thanks, > Ruchith > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Manjula Peiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 09:23 +0530, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > >> It looks to me that the amount of confusion and frustration demonstrated > >> in this thread is due to the mix of topics that we are discussing under > >> the single topic, namely TLP. > >> > >> Some of the matters are not really TLP related. > >> > >> On one hand, there is talk about dropping C out of the picture, while > >> making Axis2 a TLP. So natural tenancy from the C folks is a big NO. > >> So is that equivalent to saying, no we do not need a TLP? Not really. > > > > Yes as a contributor to Axis2/C project my main concern is also on > > dropping out Axis2/C out of the picture. If we separate out these two > > projects it may affect Axis2/C project, and I don't think Axis2 will > > benefited from that either. > > > >> > >> Then there are questions related to activeness. And I do agree that it > >> is a real problem, that needs to be solved. But IMHO I have doubts if a > >> TLP would solve it. > >> > >> We need a clear list of things that we might be doing, when we become a > >> TLP. And that list must obviously include the list of projects that will > >> go under that TLP etc. > >> > >> Then we also need a separate list, that outlines problems that we have > >> in the current setup. Including those that might be solved with TLP as > >> well as those that might not. > >> > >> And if we can agree on the above, then we have to identify a media to > >> collect those lists. A mailing list thread like this is distorting when > >> it comes to listing things IMHO, so we might need a Wiki that everyone > >> can edit. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Samisa... > >> > >> > >> Ajith Ranabahu wrote: > >> > missed general@ > >> > > >> > > >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> > From: Ajith Ranabahu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:04 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > > >> > I should kick myself for not reading Axis2 mail frequently. I just > >> > spent 20 minutes reading the complete thread and just throwing my 2 > >> > cents. > >> > > >> > 1. I am +1 (not a vote, a token of agreement) on making Axis2 a TLP. > >> > I have supported the decision in the PMC and I am still in support for > >> > it. As Deepal says I don't understand why people are so much worried > >> > about making Axis2 a TLP. We have kept all the major components as > >> > subprojects so far and what difference would it make if we house them > >> > in a different place ? > >> > > >> > 2. I have to agree to Dims that we have not been active as usual. > >> > There are open Jira's and I haven't had time to fix the few things > >> > that are pending in my niche projects (XMLSchema and tcpmon) let alone > >> > in Axis2. However I personally feel that it would be easier to do a > >> > better job (better than being done right now) if the teams are small > >> > and focused rather than generic and all over the place. Again the > >> > volume and the size clearly warrants a break just for the ease of > >> > management. Mind you - it would not automatically fix the problem - > >> > the site would not get fixed by magic and the Jiras would not vanish. > >> > However it may make it easier to do so. > >> > For the sake of the argument if a disgruntled user goes on commenting > >> > about Axis2 he would be shooting at the ws pmc. But the WS pmc > >> > consists of many other innocent PMCers that have nothing to do with > >> > Axis2! if we have clear separation then the responsibilities are > >> > clear. > >> > > >> > 3. I've been told that (before my time in Apache) that it is > >> > discouraged to put projects in an umbrella of functionality, say like > >> > in ws* or xml*. Instead Apache has embraced the > >> > related-or-not-related-but-interesting type of project names with > >> > 'projects' and not umbrellas. Just to make it clear does the words > >> > jackrabbit, lucene, synapse, Mina or Lenya make any hint of what the > >> > project actually does ? So i don't see the point of keeping Axis2 > >> > under the umbrella of ws* anymore. if the ws* argument to hold I would > >> > say all other Apache projects that provide the SOAP stack capability > >> > should come under ws* as well (such as CXF) > >> > > >> > 4. I don't suppose there is anyone with a secret (evil ;P) agenda of > >> > becoming the member of two PMC's supporting the split. But as I > >> > pointed out earlier ws has grown out of its bounds and its time we > >> > split things up for the sake of managing the complexity. Who we put as > >> > the chair is a different question and hopefully would be selected the > >> > democratic way (or by just looking at the mail count :D) > >> > > >> > For my final conclusion I am in support of this proposal. > >> > > >> > Ajith > >> > > >> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Though given Paul's and other people's response. > >> >>> > >> >> Dims, my response was a light-hearted comment on the situation, and > >> >> made no reference to whether or not Axis2 should be a TLP. I'm sorry > >> >> if you took it in a way it wasn't meant to be taken, but I certainly > >> >> wasn't making any comment against the proposal. I am in favour of > >> >> making Axis2 a TLP, and I'm surprised if anything I have said led you > >> >> or anyone else to think otherwise. > >> >> > >> >> Paul > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Paul Fremantle > >> >> Co-Founder and CTO, WSO2 > >> >> Apache Synapse PMC Chair > >> >> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > >> >> > >> >> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Ajith Ranabahu > >> > > >> > Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its > >> > creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain > >> > too little falls into lazy habits of thinking - Albert Einstein > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > http://blog.ruchith.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Thanks Afkham Azeez Blog: http://afkham.org Developer Portal: http://www.wso2.org WSAS Blog: http://wso2wsas.blogspot.com Company: http://wso2.com GPG Fingerprint: 643F C2AF EB78 F886 40C9 B2A2 4AE2 C887 665E 0760
