There are products out there which has different implementation based on the programming environment. For example, CruiseControl (http://cruisecontrol.sourceforge.net/) is for Java, then there is CruiseControl.NET and CruiseControl.rb. I think a similar approach can be taken for C without loosing its identity.
/Sanjaya ________________________________ From: Manjula Peiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: general@ws.apache.org Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:44:26 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 09:23 +0530, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > It looks to me that the amount of confusion and frustration demonstrated > in this thread is due to the mix of topics that we are discussing under > the single topic, namely TLP. > > Some of the matters are not really TLP related. > > On one hand, there is talk about dropping C out of the picture, while > making Axis2 a TLP. So natural tenancy from the C folks is a big NO. > So is that equivalent to saying, no we do not need a TLP? Not really. Yes as a contributor to Axis2/C project my main concern is also on dropping out Axis2/C out of the picture. If we separate out these two projects it may affect Axis2/C project, and I don't think Axis2 will benefited from that either. > > Then there are questions related to activeness. And I do agree that it > is a real problem, that needs to be solved. But IMHO I have doubts if a > TLP would solve it. > > We need a clear list of things that we might be doing, when we become a > TLP. And that list must obviously include the list of projects that will > go under that TLP etc. > > Then we also need a separate list, that outlines problems that we have > in the current setup. Including those that might be solved with TLP as > well as those that might not. > > And if we can agree on the above, then we have to identify a media to > collect those lists. A mailing list thread like this is distorting when > it comes to listing things IMHO, so we might need a Wiki that everyone > can edit. > > Thanks, > Samisa... > > > Ajith Ranabahu wrote: > > missed general@ > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Ajith Ranabahu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > I should kick myself for not reading Axis2 mail frequently. I just > > spent 20 minutes reading the complete thread and just throwing my 2 > > cents. > > > > 1. I am +1 (not a vote, a token of agreement) on making Axis2 a TLP. > > I have supported the decision in the PMC and I am still in support for > > it. As Deepal says I don't understand why people are so much worried > > about making Axis2 a TLP. We have kept all the major components as > > subprojects so far and what difference would it make if we house them > > in a different place ? > > > > 2. I have to agree to Dims that we have not been active as usual. > > There are open Jira's and I haven't had time to fix the few things > > that are pending in my niche projects (XMLSchema and tcpmon) let alone > > in Axis2. However I personally feel that it would be easier to do a > > better job (better than being done right now) if the teams are small > > and focused rather than generic and all over the place. Again the > > volume and the size clearly warrants a break just for the ease of > > management. Mind you - it would not automatically fix the problem - > > the site would not get fixed by magic and the Jiras would not vanish. > > However it may make it easier to do so. > > For the sake of the argument if a disgruntled user goes on commenting > > about Axis2 he would be shooting at the ws pmc. But the WS pmc > > consists of many other innocent PMCers that have nothing to do with > > Axis2! if we have clear separation then the responsibilities are > > clear. > > > > 3. I've been told that (before my time in Apache) that it is > > discouraged to put projects in an umbrella of functionality, say like > > in ws* or xml*. Instead Apache has embraced the > > related-or-not-related-but-interesting type of project names with > > 'projects' and not umbrellas. Just to make it clear does the words > > jackrabbit, lucene, synapse, Mina or Lenya make any hint of what the > > project actually does ? So i don't see the point of keeping Axis2 > > under the umbrella of ws* anymore. if the ws* argument to hold I would > > say all other Apache projects that provide the SOAP stack capability > > should come under ws* as well (such as CXF) > > > > 4. I don't suppose there is anyone with a secret (evil ;P) agenda of > > becoming the member of two PMC's supporting the split. But as I > > pointed out earlier ws has grown out of its bounds and its time we > > split things up for the sake of managing the complexity. Who we put as > > the chair is a different question and hopefully would be selected the > > democratic way (or by just looking at the mail count :D) > > > > For my final conclusion I am in support of this proposal. > > > > Ajith > > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Though given Paul's and other people's response. > >>> > >> Dims, my response was a light-hearted comment on the situation, and > >> made no reference to whether or not Axis2 should be a TLP. I'm sorry > >> if you took it in a way it wasn't meant to be taken, but I certainly > >> wasn't making any comment against the proposal. I am in favour of > >> making Axis2 a TLP, and I'm surprised if anything I have said led you > >> or anyone else to think otherwise. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> -- > >> Paul Fremantle > >> Co-Founder and CTO, WSO2 > >> Apache Synapse PMC Chair > >> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > >> > >> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Ajith Ranabahu > > > > Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its > > creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain > > too little falls into lazy habits of thinking - Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
