J.Pietschmann wrote:
Steven Noels wrote:

Voting should be made a requirement for _releases_ IMHO.


...and other "important decisions", subject to "common sense".
For example:
- major non-incremental design changes

if consensus exist: dunnow


otherwise: +0.5

is voting a method of gauging consensus? or should we install some flame metering instead? :-)

- branching

+1


- public API changes, in particular if other Apache projects
  are known to be affected (should they have a vote too? :-)

Oh sure, why not. ;-)


Seriously: I really don't know. Avalon is kind enough to check on Cocoon prior to changing APIs we depend on, but I regard that as a very kind courtesy and as such, I value this much more than when they would do the same just because of rules and regulations. I like it when people are doing Good Things without being expected to do so.

My nitpicking was based on the _required_ votes. I think we should have as little required votes as possible. Informal consensus gauging by exchanging +1/-1 are already part of our life and vocabulary. (I sometimes even see myself replying to customer emails with only "+1" in the body if I'm OK with what they said.)

Totally OT: as a non-native English speaking guy, I've been smiling today because of the similarity between 'vote' and 'veto'. There's some beautiful coinciding tongue-in-cheek humor behind that, especially if you look at recent discussions on some lists. But I'm digressing... ;-)

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