On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 21:38 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:14:12 +0200 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > | Just to take this to a humorous extreme - > > | would you be content if sunrise ceased all operations? > > > > That's not a humourous extreme at all. That would be a good start. Now, > > follow it up with a promise that something similar won't come along > > under a different name and make the same mistakes. Ah well, Ciaran doing his nice troll impression again. How I missed that ...
> Ciaran: I think you're forgetting that Patrick's normal line of thinking > is "act first, ask questions later" :) Nah, I just don't want to wait 18 months for anonCVS, took me ~6h to get it working on my box. Genstef was a bit optimistic in starting the sunrise overlay without asking first, but I guess those people he would have asked might not have seen a problem with it. > Patrick: I think you're missing the point of why your project It's not my project. It's just one of the projects I like and which I support where I can. Technically I'm not even _part_ of this project, just a random lurker ... > was > suspended in the first place. You're taking every comment that's been > made against it as a personal attack and have been ignorant in *all* the > technical details. Well ... if the technical details are "it will cause the end of the world" it's hard to evaluate them to more than "random noise that can be ignored". I really don't see how such an overlay would cause more problems than providing the ebuilds unsorted, untested and without any QA checks in bugzilla (which is official hardware, eh?). If you had looked at sunrise recently you'd have noticed that those that work on it try to do their best and reach a quite high quality standard. So you get fixed, quality checked ebuilds, dev candidates and happy users. > If you would open your eyes and mind a little you'll > see that there are better ways to making your project work better. I could say the same to you - there's always room for improvement. > I > don't think continuing it on unofficial hardware without fixing the > details is the best idea. That's the only way to not have it die due to ressource starvation. Get the people to not work on it for 3 months and noone will remember that it even existed (which might be the goal of some) > You're just digging your hole deeper and not > fixing the issues we had in the first place. Please reconsider what > you're doing. I think the strong reactions from people like jakub (which now force the java overlay to do a stupid move just because otherwise they get problems with bugs!?) show that we have a strong disagreement here with one side responding to every demand and the other side just making more demands. But eh, I'm not even part of Sunrise, so I probably shouldn't even care. > > | Now I'll just disappear for the weekend, don't flame too much in my > > | absence ... > > That would also be a good start. > Indeed. Sorry to disappoint you :-) -- Stand still, and let the rest of the universe move
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