On 03:04 Wed 07 May , Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council > meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the > channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). > > If you're supposed to show up, please show up. If you're not supposed > to show up, then show up anyways and watch your Council monkeys dance > for you. > > For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
Here's the suggested agenda. Please feel free to respond to some of the commentary within, because it's hard for me to usefully summarize a topic's background in an entirely objective manner. Thanks, Donnie
Requested attendees =================== Active developer: araujo, anyone who could talk about how to get this script running on Gentoo infra PMS: ciaranm, pkgcore dev, portage dev, any other tools that care about versions Enforced retirement: fmccor, musikc musikc has already informed us that she can't make it until an hour later, so this is the final topic. New process =========== The last few meetings have dragged out for hours unnecessarily. This time, let's return to moderating the channel. Let's try moderating during discussion of each topic, then temporarily opening the floor for that topic before a vote so anyone can contribute. Updates to last month's topics ============================== http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20080410-summary.txt Document of being an active developer ------------------------------------- Last month: No updates Updates: araujo made http://dev.gentoo.org/~araujo/gcert1.pdf in Scribus. He'd like to ask for approval of this design and discuss the script, in particular its infrastructure requirements. Slacker arches -------------- 4 months ago: vapier will work on rich0's suggestion and repost it for discussion on -dev ML 2 months ago: vapier said he was going to work on it that weekend. Last month: No updates Updates: New topics ========== When are ChangeLog entries required? ------------------------------------ This question mainly relates to arch stabilizations. Can the council help fewer bugs get ignored by arm/sh/s390 teams? ----------------------------------------------------------------- The work happens, but Mart says it's not communicated to anyone and has no relationship to whether bugs are open. PMS: Are versions allowed to have more than 8 digits? ----------------------------------------------------- http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_db2f5c09c2c0c8b042ca3d0dcec7cdaf.xml https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188449 What do various PMs/tools support? Enforced retirement ------------------- What was the council's role in the recent enforced retirement of 3 developers? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The council received numerous complaints, agreed that the devrel lead could take action and discussed the problems with her. The council did not "force" her to claim its actions were hers. Why does the council permit such actions in apparent violation of Gentoo's policy of openness? ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/#doc_chap2 says this: "Every aspect of Gentoo is and remains open. Gentoo does not benefit from hiding any of its development processes (whether it is source code or documentation, decisions or discussions, coordination or management)." Chris (wolf) noted that it does specifically refer to development process. Devrel's current process document <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/policy.xml> also makes specific note of the lack of transparency, and disciplinary actions have historically been discussed in a closed environment, in part because of the potential harmful effects of the discussions if action is not taken. What is the council's role in an appeal? ---------------------------------------- How should we proceed with the current appeals? If the council is directly involved in disciplinary action, Ferris requests that we amend GLEP 39 to explain how the council handles appeals and whether the council can take direct disciplinary action. Open floor ----------