On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:47:09 -0700 Gordon Malm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It looks to me like hardened is doing entirely the wrong thing. > > Thus, the proper fix is to make hardened behave itself. > > It looks to me like you've already made up your mind. How is > hardened doing the entirely wrong thing? What do you propose can be > done to "fix" the hardened compiler? What about madwifi-ng? You are > getting increasingly narrow in your points of objection.
I suggest you get the hardened upstream people to stop abusing the -D switch to gcc. The distcc people suggest the same. > Parallel building problems can often and should be addressed > properly. I don't want the answer to every one that comes along to > be to add RESTRICT="distcc". This is something to be addressed > through developer documentation that using RESTRICT="distcc" should > be a last resort. Uh, RESTRICT=distcc won't even fix parallel make problems. It'll just make them harder to reproduce on some systems. > However, in practice making a package parallel-make safe isn't always > trivial. So what happens in these cases is FEATURES=distcc && die > check is put in place killing the emerge chain and requiring user > intervention. Either that or the bug just lingers and the compile > fails somewhere in the middle... ...or you could use -j1, which whilst being horrible will at least work. > I don't know about palaudis but this is like a one line patch to > portage. But silly me, I thought the package manager was there to > support the distribution. You have yet to demonstrate how RESTRICT=distcc will help. In fact, you seem to be demonstrating that all it'll do is make a few people apply a 'fix' that won't reliably fix anything. *If* there's a legitimate use for RESTRICT=distcc then I am entirely in favour of it. But it looks like there isn't, with every issue being either a parallelism issue (which RESTRICT=distcc won't fix), a user configuration issue (which RESTRICT=distcc won't fix) or a hardened toolchain bug (for which RESTRICT=distcc is massive overkill, and thus the wrong solution). You've decided upon a solution before you've worked out what the problem is. -- Ciaran McCreesh
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