Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com> posted 6142e6140905150344y4a8007b5wd352ffe891e49...@mail.gmail.com, excerpted below, on Fri, 15 May 2009 12:44:47 +0200:
> 2009/5/15 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) <hk...@gentoo.org>: >> >> Thilo Bangert wrote: >>> >>> Fedora is a much more current distribution than Gentoo - and has been >>> for a couple of years... >> >> Please elaborate what exactly you think Fedora does better than we do. >> I have no first-hand experience with Fedora, but from what I read I had >> the impression that sometimes they go with new stuff before it is >> ready, like KDE4 and pulseaudio. I like about the current situation >> that we also have all those things available AFAICS, but have very >> broad choices in how much we want to bleed. IMO this is a different >> issue than having supposedly popular ebuilds not in main tree. >> > AFAIK Fedora is [Red Hat's unstable.] So it makes more sense to > compare it with the Gentoo unstable tree instead of the stable > one. Assuming this there is probably not a big difference in the > up-to-dateness. Well, yes and no. As the GP said, they sometimes go with new stuff before it's ready -- before Gentoo even has it in-tree hard-masked let alone ~arch, while it's still in the various project overlays. I know they've had some serious issues with xorg on Intel GPUs at least, due to running versions that aren't in our tree yet, only in the X overlay, because Fedora is running clearly not even ~arch-ready packages, sometimes even xorg prereleases. Years ago we'd have put these in-tree but hard-masked for those who wanted to try them. Now, depending on the package and Gentoo but more likely as the complexity rises to meta-package levels, those who want to try them must load an overlay. As someone who selectively unmasks and tries these, having them in-tree but hard-masked is convenient, but I understand why projects may prefer overlays in many cases. However, none of this directly applies to the subject at hand, because while we're talking new versions of packages already in-tree here, the subject at hand is packages that aren't in-tree in any form yet. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
