В Птн, 01/10/2010 в 20:02 +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò пишет: > I, sincerely, have poured enough effort in trying to solve the issue, > discussing it, documenting it, showing how to deal with new packages, > showing how to identify pointless .la files that only increase the > number of them installed and cause false positives… and I'm still told > that a) I haven't done _enough_, as I had to prepare a master plan of > it and b) I'm too negative about stuff.
Diego, I guess that you were "told that..." is due to the way you've tried to reach developer's community. Actually I failed to find any mails on '.la files removal' subject in gentoo-dev-announce or gentoo-dev mailing lists. Now I assume that by efforts you mean blog posts and bug reports. Both of this medias are targeted on small subgroup of Gentoo developers: blogs contain only personal opinion and no Gentoo developer supposed to read blogs (btw, I'm not reading all blog entries); bug reports are really better but again only small fraction of developers is informed (only 10 bugs is currently opened). Yea, there were some discussions on -dev mailing list: first discussion I found was "Removing .la files..." where we discussed _problems_ such removal may cause with no clear resolution. After that 'la file' substring matches thread about libpng (again problems) and some even shorter threads. So every developer knew that we should remove .la files but also we knew that inconsistent removal (like currently happened again) causes problems for users and nobody ever announced any distro-wide guidelines. It is obvious that to avoid useless rebuild we should have been started from most popular leaf packages like gnome/xfce/X11 and only then move on dependent libraries but nobody told: please, start now from here and here. Currently it'll be great if you could point on relevant information so we could continue to remove .la files without mess (e.g. altering stable packages). But looks like before such plan could be announced we really need to discuss how we handle stable packages (heh, again). So I'll end with bottom line: please, post really important distribution wide things to appropriate media (gentoo-dev-announce mailing list)! -- Peter.
