On 07/31/2011 04:56 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 04:40:33AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 07/31/2011 03:59 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >>> On 30-07-2011 22:17, William Hubbs wrote: >>>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:27:27AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>>>> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on >>>>> top of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long >>>>> time now[1][2][3] >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235 [2] >>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr >>>>> [3] >>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> Can we warn users about not doing the separate /usr mistake in the handbook? >>> >>>> There are actually two options for us according to upstream. One is >>>> the one you are talking about -- mounting /usr from an initramfs >>>> before / is mounted. The other is to mount local file systems, if >>>> setups are simple enough, before we start udev. I could set this one >>>> up easily enough just by moving localmount to the boot runlevel. >>> >>>> Can we discuss both options? >>> If there's any option that allows the use of a separate /usr partition >>> without an initramfs, then let's explore it. I don't feel like having to >>> use an initramfs just because I want a small / without /usr on it. >> >> The message is really missing all the context without explanation for >> WHY you want it. > > Here is a good argument for supporting this. > > http://tldp.org/LDP/lame/LAME/linux-admin-made-easy/install-partitioning.html
The documentation seems to lack any arguments, bad or good, for the separate /usr issue. Any chance you could highlight it out? > You can hose your system easier with one big file system with / and > /usr combined than you can with multiple partitions. Too vague. Did you mean to compare filesystem size with the amount of errors and it's capability to recover? To what effect, and same for every filesystem type? Details please. :-/ - Samuli
