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On 03/27/2012 02:01 PM, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>> I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to
>> create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my
>> first Gentoo systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of
>> fragmentation, much slower "emerge -pvuDN world" (I benchmarked
>> it when I changed my partitioning scheme to put /usr/portage)
>> separate and a lot of disk space lost (I remember portage tree
>> reached around 3 GB of disk space while I am now running with
>> 300MB)
>> 
>> Could handbook suggest people to put /usr/portage on a different 
>> partition then? The only doubt I have is what filesystem would be
>> better for it, in my case I am using reiserfs with tail enabled,
>> but maybe you have other different setups.
> 
> To be honest, I don't think it is wise to describe it in the Gentoo
> Handbook just yet. I don't mind having it documented elsewhere, but
> the separate partition is not mandatory for getting Gentoo up and
> running. The instructions currently also just give an example
> partition layout and tell users that different layouts are
> perfectly possible.
> 
> We need to take into consideration what is needed (must) for a
> Gentoo installation, what is seriously recommended (should), what
> is nice to have (could), etc. And for me, having a separate
> /usr/portage is a nice-to-have imo.
> 
> Wkr, Sven Vermeulen
> 

Definitely. The handbook should only cover simple, straightforward
setups. New users are already overwhelmed by the handbook as it is.
Going into details about alternate setups would only increase the
number of "Is there a quick start guide somewhere that I can follow"
or "which setup is best" questions that we currently get in #gentoo
and friends.

If anything, I'd recommend we remove some details, like getting rid of
the 'mirrorselect' command. (Too many people run into a non-starter
because of it.)

- - Aaron
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