On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 02:05:27PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 14/12/12 01:28 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:43:41AM +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: > >> Handling separate /usr support ============================== > >> After the discussion on [1] during the previous meeting, a delay > >> of one month due to a new fork of udev was requested. We need an > >> update on what's happened. > >> > >> Chainsaw reported udev and eudev have moved on, and for both it > >> is now possible to have a separate /usr. The follow-up > >> discussion related to the /usr-merge is necessary. > > > > udev was never the problem of having a separate /usr without an > > initrd. Have all of the other packages been properly fixed to > > resolve this issue correctly? > > > > Also, what's the plan for eudev going forward? > > > > > Eudev's project announcement is coming soon, should answer your questions. > > In terms of udev's dependencies, yes, the few dependencies that were > installing only to /usr (ie, kmod and xz-utils) have been switched to > install to /, and then fixed again due to issues with they way they > were done the first time so that they also work. I believe however > they are still ~arch keyworded. > > There may of course be other entirely independent packages needed at > boot time prior to localmount, I do not know that status of those. > Once eudev (the gentoo package) fully supports separate-/usr (which it > doesn't at this time as it uses the same init scripts as udev-196), we > will be sure to resolve them. > > It should be noted that sys-fs/udev (the package) since .. 186 I > think? whichever version dropped support for the failed-rules queue > (and whichever package dropped the udev-postmount init script) does > not support booting with a separate /usr. This has more to do with > how the package installs than the upstream code itself, though; as > such (WilliamH please correct me if I'm wrong) the plan is still to > require an initramfs if using sys-fs/udev with a separate-/usr.
Greg, can you write back to this message with specific examples of what would need to be customized so that separate /usr would work right without an initramfs? I have tried to explain multiple times that this is a mis-conception that udev caused it, but I am getting nowhere. Thanks, William
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