On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 09:00:56PM +0000, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > > Greg, can you write back to this message with specific examples of what
> > > would need to be customized so that separate /usr would work  right
> > > without an initramfs? I have tried to explain multiple times that this
> > > is a mis-conception that udev caused it, but I am getting nowhere.  
> > 
> > It's not my job to do this, nor yours, or fix any of these issues.  It's
> > up to the people who wish to keep a separate /usr partition without an
> > initramfs to do this work.
> 
> So even though you keep stating things without being specific like
> udev is not a blocker, you have just admitted that the udev package
> does violate the Filesystem Hiearchical Standard as well as the latest
> draft when installing.

Specifically how does udev violate it?  And also note, FHS is a trailing
standard, documenting how things are done, not how they should be done.
It can be changed.

And since when did Gentoo start worrying about FHS and LSB?

> I can understand following the current trend (some of which I agreed
> with) but what is the justification for that which didn't already have
> an optional solution?

I don't understand, what in the udev package, or source, goes against
FHS?

> p.s. embedded does not equal mobile and android uses a leaner init
> than /sbin/init and experiments posted to the buildroot list found
> systemd to be slower, guessed to be due to increased cycles but perhaps
> memory usage on even some mobile level processors which accounts for a
> fraction of linux potential in embedded applications. POSIX compliance
> is also a requirement by some major industries.

What does POSIX have to do with anything here?

And when did I bring up systemd and boot times?  That's not what this
thread is about, sorry.

greg k-h

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