-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 24/04/13 11:46 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 24 April 2013 13:54:07 William Hubbs wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:34:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On Wednesday 24 April 2013 13:23:23 William Hubbs wrote: >>>> The issue is that OpenRC does not have any kind of dependency on >>>> gentoo-oldnet at all. There will be a separate loopback script in OpenRC >>>> so it is possible to run OpenRC on a system without the oldnet or newnet >>>> scripts. In fact, this is a completely valid configuration. >>> >>> even then, a default Gentoo system should have networking support available >>> by default. our manuals assume this, and people shouldn't have >>> to install a stage3 and then do `emerge gentoo-oldnet` just to have that >>> happen. so keeping a dependency in openrc (perhaps initially hard, >>> or behind IUSE=+oldnet) makes sense. >>
+1 We should definitely install networking by default, and not make people install it as a separate emerge. If oldnet is being split into a different package, perhaps newnet should be split out as well. Maybe we could have a virtual/networking that defaults to oldnet and exists as a hard dep of openrc. >> if we keep a dependency for a while, even behind something like >> IUSE="+oldnet", when we drop it, people will still be hit if they do emerge >> --depclean before they emerge gentoo-oldnet. > > i don't think we should drop it. openrc is logically the best place imo. +1 oldnet is and should remain the default networking implementation on Gentoo. Newnet simply drops way too much functionality to become the default. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJReFpSAAoJEHy/RO9cNQiDnCYQAIZ0nqhQKwknim7azbuep6Le AGh0EF5BLyWxly/N3BR6QYihkQLHzmq+8UaFselc5IC+ZN8iPphH9Z6i9mcHBBRR 7GGSSZSLg+fDoP+RkdeJwRzk+AnNlD8pJKfKtvgmf1BR5biUSo7NRXHCIR4wSl+r j0Vn9QdOD8g3z2yyhDIYDQPWEcn+JIlVPO5U0TBfZSK4xUGbbQmqAkrmfg0btPCe XS+LvVjl9xwpQlnj0ZX3xdDSNuuC4VtLSCIh/mawOMKIV1RmdArRHSyIul4XWBZd RWxEcx61V4UVnqoqwV8PArvneZpUgzI1yBSNTeFukJ+Qq9a2keRMW2YAt7Uy4D6Y Acd7xt9HM7GWscJU/k1qBajbuaa1jDDkAhITntUaSn1dWrg6q5JFRTCBT1BNsluq Hg3mrmIjH5RusYHl6J1mbl4njzumLBL98ibV8R+bp6VJQytADW3UYtIUAFS+R6z8 tj3WYpN3crE34FXSPdAKsAzoXBN9EZL/PTBnmUZs/KDBeRan/p4tPO68RIwiJdC+ WrZclWYH3IPpkeI3MYbTGRaskFVQVUxuTAH/mHRSSxbOOxqACcEm85YnJZHZf/ab KIrDomUjOGbbVX0dMChjCQQXZ2WGkcbfcUSSqxbBBWLMMI4iXzM9xh5c23AnCqXm PlX6fyf+QU3hOX4enKlZ =iEze -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
