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On 11/09/15 01:41 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>> Rich Freeman posted on Fri, 11 Sep 2015 08:13:48 -0400 as
>> excerpted:
>>
>>> USE=gui or something like that if the main effect is to have
>>> a gui or not. That is the sort of thing that SHOULD go in
>>> make.conf or in a profile. If disabling gtk makes it a
>>> console-only application then use the gui flag.
>>
>> I like the general proposal, but since it's going to council,
>> can we try to kill another bird with the same stone? This
>> USE=gui helps...
>>
>> Wayland's coming, and to the extent that USE=X has previously
>> indicated a GUI, much like USE=gtk and USE=qt indicating the
>> same thing, we're going to have problems.
>>
>> Can we make USE=gui the generic policy for that, and deprecate
>> more specific forms for choosing /any/ gui, so they can be used
>> for choosing /which/ gui?
>
> That was exactly why I used "gui" and not "X". We're going to
> run into the exact same problem once Wayland comes along with the
> way things have been done so far.
>
So, IUSE="X" has generally been used for gui, but more technically
it's used to depend on and build against x11-libs/* packages. The
fact that this gives a GUI is practically a side-effect. When
wayland comes along, do these packages still build against
x11-libs/* to support wayland?
I'm just wondering if we're jumping the gun a little bit on
IUSE="gui".. yes it'll be nice to have one flag that "just works"
for anyone not caring about the details, but it'll also mean
propagating a slew of REQUIRED_USE=" {X,wayland,gtk,qt4,qt5}? ( gui
)" entries and a lot of extra use-defaults which may or may not
cleanup the sub-profiles of desktop/ ....
Also, I believe we need to have the conversation about the pros and
cons of IUSE=gui here before the council meeting, yes?
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