On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:37:23 -0700 Matt Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >> Mailing list review is the *norm* in the free software world. > >> > > > > Oh, the norm > > You're being quite rude with attempted mockery -- actually, the rest > of your reply is pretty abrupt as well. > > If you want to fight, find someone and some place and else. Otherwise > if you're interested in having a reasonable discussion, please read > on. > Oh so this is a fight? Your words not mine. I thought this was a discussion. Please stop putting words into my mouth. > > > > These educators have already started to learn some lessons of their > > own. An intrinsic aspect of the flow of teaching / educating is the > > impact of teacher behaviour upon their learners and a teacher's > > responsibility as an educator to deal with it productively. What's > > happening here? Teacher says take it because I gave it to you,now be > > quiet ? > > No. It's a discussion. Review can be responded to -- reviewers aren't > intrinsically right. > Oh thanks for reminding me. > > This is not a captive audience. It's an immediately convenient one. > > Educators snubbed by their students are not educators. At least not > > effective ones. These students are so by nature of their own > > voluntary participation. They have the option of rejecting these > > lessons at their whim. > > Patch review is widely accepted as a quality-improving tool. Some have > had difficulty adjusting to it when coming from, for instance, the > closed-source world, primarily because they equate making a mistake to > personal failure (and as such, having it pointed out in public makes > it worse). > > http://sarah.thesharps.us/2014/09/01/the-gentle-art-of-patch-review/ > offers a good explanation. > > "The most productive contributors see each mistake they make as a > growth opportunity, instead of a personal failure." > The main target learners here are keen users. You can take told a mistake with the background and status of a dev. They don't. They are often intimidated and fearful if gentoo devs. We wonder why. -- kind regards Ian Delaney
