On 26/10/16 11:43 PM, Gordon Pettey wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Ian Stakenvicius <a...@gentoo.org
> <mailto:a...@gentoo.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On 26/10/16 04:49 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>     > On 10/25/2016 13:15, William Hubbs wrote:
>     >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 01:10:06PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
>     >>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 1:01 PM, William Hubbs
>     <willi...@gentoo.org <mailto:willi...@gentoo.org>> wrote:
>     >>>> If you are not using /dev/disk/by-* paths in fstab, you do
>     not need to
>     >>> take any action for this news item.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> If you are, it is very critical that you update fstab AS SOON AS
>     >>> POSSIBLE. Your system will become unbootable in the future if
>     you do
>     >>> not  do so.
>     >>>
>     >>> Err, what is changing that will make systems unbootable?
>     >>>
>     >>> I am fairly certain systems running systemd will continue to work
>     >>> properly with either syntax.
>     >>
>     >>  They probably will.
>     >>
>     >>> If this is about the udev-settle issue for OpenRC, I would
>     urge you to
>     >>> reconsider that.
>     >>
>     >>  There isn't anything to reconsider afaik. The problem is that
>     >>  /dev/disk/by-* are only created by udev/eudev, but the other
>     syntax
>     >>  works regardless of which device manager  you use, so this is
>     the safer
>     >>  route.
>     >>
>     >>  William
>     >>
>     >
>     > I take it us museum relics still using jurassic-era device names like
>     > /dev/sd* or /dev/md* aren't affected by this?
> 
>     That's correct -- the kernel's 'devtmpfs' creates those ones, whereas
>     the /dev/disk/by-* symlinks (pretty well all symlinks in /dev i think,
>     actually) are generated by udev rules.
> 
>     Actually, I wonder if the /dev/[vgname]/[lvname] paths would be
>     affected by this too -- those are symlinks to the actual nodes in
>     /dev/mapper/ after all, and are created by 11-dm-lvm.rules
> 
> 
> Those are already problematic; udev and/or lvm2 seem to randomly
> forget to set those up sometimes. I use /dev/mapped/vg-lv in
> /etc/fstab because of that.
>  

If they aren't there at mount time but do show up after everything is
mounted, I'm willing to bet that is caused by the same issue.  I think
I'll add another paragraph to the second draft about this.


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