On 12/04/2016 10:10 AM, james wrote: > On 12/04/2016 02:22 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 06:30:29PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: >>>> ---------------- >>>> Net Total: $50,924.19 >>>> ---------------- >>> So from 09-16 avg of ~$4.6k per year over 11 years. >> 10 years of participation, 9 of which we got paid for. So ~$5.7k/year. >> If we got paid for 2013: ~$5.4k/year over 10 years. >> >>> With that really being earned by people doing GSoC. Not the same as if >>> Google donated a lump sum of money to further development per say the >>> Councils plans. Only 1 hardware donation. >> That's the payment to the organization for mentoring and managing the >> students, separate from what the students doing GSoC earned. >> >> If the student's work was of use to Gentoo, then it's ALSO $5000-$5500 >> per student that we've had in man-hours. I do use that disclaimer, >> because I know the integration rate for Gentoo students much lower than >> it should be. >> >> 2006: 10 students >> 2007: 8 students >> 2008: 5 students >> 2009: 6 students >> 2010: 16 students >> 2011: 14 students >> 2012: 8 students >> 2013: 6 students >> 2014: 3 students >> 2016: 5 students >> >> Total: 81 students. >> Assuming $5k/student: $405,000 in student payments, over 11 years. >> >> I don't know how many students we've failed: I do know it's been at >> least one (I failed them. Their original mentor had medical issues, I >> took over, and they provided a mocked video of their work and no code by >> midterm). >> >>> I believe past sponsors such as GNi incurred costs in the ~$5k range >>> monthly. >>> I would assume some hosting sponsors to be averaging a few thousand >>> at minimum >>> per year. >> The cost to GNi was much closer to $1k/month, mostly in potential lost >> revenue if the hardware COULD be used for income (it was already a sunk >> cost, and didn't have other users). For our present major hosting >> sponsors, I believe we're more in line with $250-$400/month, but again >> mostly older hardware that isn't of much other salable use. >> >>> Just as an example. FreeBSD is seeking $1.25 Million in a fundraiser >>> with >>> $882k thus far. >>> https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ >> $1.25M is their annual fund-raising target for this year and last. Not a >> specific fund-raiser, but their annual target. >> For 2016 Q1-Q3, on the $1.25M, they report $293k in contributions. >> For 2015, on a $1.25M target, they reported $657k in contributions. >> For 2014, on a $1M target, they reported $2.4M in contributions. >> >>> They seem to average in the hundreds of thousands every year in >>> contributions >>> https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about/financials/ >> They're also got a good few years on us (as do Apache). >> >>> Always looked at FreeBSD when I was a Gentoo Trustee. Great >>> foundation! Passed >>> the 5 year probation period with IRS, and other stuff. >> The Apache Foundation was very beneficial to look at I found, because >> they kept superb public records, but also were not hampered by some of >> our restrictions about depending on non-open software (they & the perl >> foundation BOTH use QuickBooks on Windows for their accounting). > > > GNUcash is superior to Quickbooks, as it is a 'double entry' accounting > system. Last time I check Quickbooks was not 'double entry' and that is > a big deal in accounting. There is a module that allows entries via > Android now with GNUcash, but is not an official part of GNUcash.org. I > use GNUcash with my company, but not the Android smartphone module..... > > > http://gnucash.org > > http://www.techrepublic.com/article/gnucash-a-powerful-mobile-financial-tool-for-android/ > > > > Serious inquires could be directed to 'gnucash-u...@gnucash.org' as this > accounting software is robust, under active development and even the > devs 'chime in' on routine basis. All in all, gnucash is an > outstanding piece of FOSS software; much better than Quickbooks as many > on the discussion lists attest to on a routine basis. It is in portage > and it runs on windows and other platforms. > > > hth, > James > > >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/ >> >> I draw your attention to their last 990 filing: >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/990-2014.pdf >> - $1.2M in annual income >> - $858k spend on infrastructure, >> of which >$400k was marked directly as IT spending. >> - $1.8M in net assets >> > > iirc, we're using Ledger (http://ledger-cli.org), which is also double-entry accounting. It uses a text file for its information, and has a ton of reporting features that make it trivial to produce reports. I use it to manage my personal finances, as well.
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