On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 18:05:55 +0100
Michael Lienhardt <michael.lienha...@laposte.net> wrote:
> Il 08/02/2018 16:04, James Le Cuirot ha scritto:
> >>> Citing Kenneth Hoste at FOSDEM this year: modifying a package
> >>> without changing its version is a bad idea.
> >>> His presentation was very good (video included):
> >>> https://fosdem.org/2
> >>> 018/schedule/event/how_to_make_package_managers_cry/
> >> This isn't so clear cut simple. We build from source at user
> >> systems. Think of the effect for something like webkit-gtk,
> >> chromium, libreoffice, etc.
> > Exactly and while this package isn't as big as those, it could be
> > argued that xorg-server is bumped frequently enough that the
> > lingering dependency would have been flushed out soon enough
> > anyway. It's not like it's doing any harm.
> > I also think that FOSDEM talk was making a different point, aimed at
> > upstreams in order to help packagers rather than packagers
> > themselves.
> Thanks for the information and sorry for the noise.
> I wasn't fully aware of the meaning of the --dynamics-deps and
> --changed-deps option. I am still not entirely convinced that
> changing a package after it is committed to the repository cannot do
> harm: even as a user, I would like to know when and why a package's
> dependencies changed. But I don't maintain packages so my opinion is
> not very relevant, and the gentoo guidelines indeed allow to change
> the dependencies inline.
It's not like this stuff is totally invisible as it is noted in the git
log. We just don't want to tie up several minutes of CPU time for the
majority of users for no tangible benefit.
James Le Cuirot (chewi)
Gentoo Linux Developer