On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:14 PM Jonas Stein <jst...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > On 07/06/2020 03.43, Aaron Bauman wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 01:49:28AM +0200, Jonas Stein wrote: > > > I will happily revert my change on the graphics project Wiki [..] > > Glad to read your offer. Yes, please do so. > > I think it would hurt the Gentoo project if single developers delete > projects > > - without without informing the project members > - without prior discussion (on gentoo-dev for example), > - without vote/consent > - without an organized shutdown (reassign bugs, archive things...). > > However we should continue to find a general solution for the problems > discussed in this thread and find a general consent.
While I get what you're saying, I think it would also be helpful if we just let people who feel they are actually impacted by changes like this speak up for themselves, instead of assuming that they must exist and that it is our duty to speak up for them. Are you, directly, impacted in any negative way by this change? If so it would probably be helpful if you just explained the issue. This really seems like a fairly uneventful change. I do think it is better to pre-announce changes. However, I suspect that most of the fuss is because a lot of people assume that a change like this must have some kind of big impact, and for whatever reason all the people who are being harmed by it are just afraid to speak up so we must do so on their behalf. I say this as somebody who used to raise a lot more hypothetical objections to changes in the past. I've since learned that it is easy to over-react, and that when others are actually impacted by a change they will tend to speak up. I'm pretty sure in this case there was an organized shutdown - I doubt they just removed the project without reassigning packages or bugs. They were effectively already assigned to nobody as it was, since the project was inactive. I guess my point is that while this probably could be done in a better way, I think it is likely to end up happening either way, so all undoing it is going to do is send a lot of people two more rounds of bugspam at best. Or, it will result in one more round of bugspam and then these packages continue to be unmaintained because nobody is going to bother doing all the steps you're suggesting to get rid of it in the future. Easier to just leave the dead project around and let users wonder why nobody pays attention to the bugs they open. -- Rich
