On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 11:57 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 03/14/2015 11:41 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 11:08 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> > > On 03/14/2015 09:12 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 13:43 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> > > > > On 03/11/2015 01:16 PM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 10:56 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> > > > > > > On 03/11/2015 08:48 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 2015-03-08 at 11:58 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 03/08/2015 10:01 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2015-03-08 at 15:47 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > package.use/package.use.force is a bit different though:
> > > > > > > > > > > cat /etc/portage/package.use/qemu
> > > > > > > > > > > app-emulation/qemu vde -alsa -pulseaudio -bluetooth 
> > > > > > > > > > > -opengl qemu_user_targets_x86_64 
> > > > > > > > > > > xattr 
> > > > > > > > > > > virtfs 
> > > > > > > > > > > static-
> > > > > > > > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > #Needed by static-user
> > > > > > > > > > > sys-libs/zlib static-libs
> > > > > > > > > > > dev-libs/glib static-libs
> > > > > > > > > > > sys-apps/attr static-libs
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Moving this to package.use/package.use.force does not 
> > > > > > > > > > > respect -alsa, -pulseaudio, -
> > > > > > > > > > > opengl 
> > > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > flags which has a - on them, emerge wants to turn them on 
> > > > > > > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > > > > > Using portage 2.2.18
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Appears one have to use package.use.mask for that.
> > > > > > > > > >  cat package.use.mask
> > > > > > > > > >  app-emulation/qemu alsa pulseaudio bluetooth opengl
> > > > > > > > > > It would be handy if one could use the same syntax as in 
> > > > > > > > > > /etc/portage/package.use/qemu(-
> > > > > > > > > > alsa -
> > > > > > > > > > opengl 
> > > > > > > > > > etc.)
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >  Jocke
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, the inverted use.mask logic can be confusing if you are 
> > > > > > > > > not familiar with it. The 
> > > > > > > > > negative 
> > > > > > > > > flags 
> > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > special meaning within the context of of portage's 
> > > > > > > > > "incremental stacking" behavior, so they 
> > > > > > > > > can 
> > > > > > > > > still 
> > > > > > > > > be 
> > > > > > > > > useful, though not in the same way that you you attempted to 
> > > > > > > > > use them.
> > > > 
> > > > Just noticed that USE flags in profiles/package.use.mask override 
> > > > everything so this
> > > >   USE=thin emerge -av sys-fs/lvm2
> > > > will not turn on thin if thin is in profiles/package.use.mask
> > > > How can just change the default so a user can easily turn it on ?
> > > 
> > > Generally, setting the USE environment variable like that is poor 
> > > practice, because the setting will 
> > > not 
> > > persist the next time that you rebuild the package. So, you should set 
> > > the flag in 
> > 
> > 
> > I know, this was just an example to illustrate that it did not work.
> > 
> > > /etc/portage/package.use. You can unmask the flag for lvm2 like this:
> > > 
> > >   echo "sys-fs/lvm2 -thin" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask
> > 
> > You misunderstand, I have "sys-fs/lvm2 thin" in 
> > /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask
> > and I want a user to able to override this setting, using USE=".." or 
> > adding it
> > to their local /etc/portage/package.use file/dir
> 
> There's no other way to negate a use mask than to use 
> /etc/portage/profile/{use.mask,package.use.mask} as I 
> have described. I don't think that it makes much sense to negate a use mask 
> for a single emerge invocation. 
> If you want to do that, then why is the use flag masked anyway?

I am putting tougher a profile for my company where I want to specify default
USE flags for different apps/libs. Then a user who knows what he/she is doing
should be able to override these defaults. It is not possible as far
as I can tell to override negative USE flags or is there?

     Jocke

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