On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 14:02 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 03/14/2015 12:30 PM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 11:57 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> > > On 03/14/2015 11:41 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 11:08 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> > > > > On 03/14/2015 09:12 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 13:43 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> > > > > > > On 03/11/2015 01:16 PM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 10:56 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 03/11/2015 08:48 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2015-03-08 at 11:58 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 03/08/2015 10:01 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2015-03-08 at 15:47 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > package.use/package.use.force is a bit different
> > > > > > > > > > > > > though:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > cat /etc/portage/package.use/qemu
> > > > > > > > > > > > > app-emulation/qemu vde -alsa -pulseaudio -bluetooth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -opengl
> > > > > > > > > > > > > qemu_user_targets_x86_64
> > > > > > > > > > > > > xattr
> > > > > > > > > > > > > virtfs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > static-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > #Needed by static-user
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sys-libs/zlib static-libs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > dev-libs/glib static-libs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sys-apps/attr static-libs
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Moving this to package.use/package.use.force does not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > respect -alsa, -pulseaudio, -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > opengl
> > > > > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > flags which has a - on them, emerge wants to turn
> > > > > > > > > > > > > them on again.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Using portage 2.2.18
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Appears one have to use package.use.mask for that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > cat package.use.mask
> > > > > > > > > > > > app-emulation/qemu alsa pulseaudio bluetooth opengl
> > > > > > > > > > > > It would be handy if one could use the same syntax as
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > /etc/portage/package.use/qemu(-
> > > > > > > > > > > > alsa -
> > > > > > > > > > > > opengl
> > > > > > > > > > > > etc.)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jocke
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the inverted use.mask logic can be confusing if you
> > > > > > > > > > > are not familiar with it. The
> > > > > > > > > > > negative
> > > > > > > > > > > flags
> > > > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > special meaning within the context of of portage's
> > > > > > > > > > > "incremental stacking" behavior, so
> > > > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > useful, though not in the same way that you you attempted
> > > > > > > > > > > to use them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just noticed that USE flags in profiles/package.use.mask override
> > > > > > everything so this
> > > > > > USE=thin emerge -av sys-fs/lvm2
> > > > > > will not turn on thin if thin is in profiles/package.use.mask
> > > > > > How can just change the default so a user can easily turn it on ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Generally, setting the USE environment variable like that is poor
> > > > > practice, because the setting
> > > > > will
> > > > > not
> > > > > persist the next time that you rebuild the package. So, you should
> > > > > set the flag in
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know, this was just an example to illustrate that it did not work.
> > > >
> > > > > /etc/portage/package.use. You can unmask the flag for lvm2 like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > echo "sys-fs/lvm2 -thin" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask
> > > >
> > > > You misunderstand, I have "sys-fs/lvm2 thin" in
> > > > /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask
> > > > and I want a user to able to override this setting, using USE=".." or
> > > > adding it
> > > > to their local /etc/portage/package.use file/dir
> > >
> > > There's no other way to negate a use mask than to use
> > > /etc/portage/profile/{use.mask,package.use.mask}
> > > as I
> > > have described. I don't think that it makes much sense to negate a use
> > > mask for a single emerge
> > > invocation.
> > > If you want to do that, then why is the use flag masked anyway?
> >
> > I am putting tougher a profile for my company where I want to specify
> > default
> > USE flags for different apps/libs. Then a user who knows what he/she is
> > doing
> > should be able to override these defaults. It is not possible as far as I
> > can tell to override negative
> > USE flags or is there?
>
> You can set default USE flags in the profile, and then the users can override
> those settings locally (both
> positively and negatively). You should not be using use.mask at all here. The
> profile can set USE="-flag"
> in make.defaults, or in packages.use, and the user can override that without
> having to mess with use.mask.
That is how I started, I added -thin etc. to profile's package.use and it
didn't work so I moved over
to package.mask.
Now when I try with -thin again in profile's package.use it actually works!
I have no idea what got wrong the first time.
Anyhow, thank you for your patience. I will continue moving over all
Transmode stuff to our new profile the next few days :)
Jocke
