Am Mittwoch 16 August 2006 16:11 schrieb Paul Kölle:
> Jan Meier wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch 16 August 2006 15:12 schrieb Paul Kölle:
> >> Jan Meier wrote:
> >>> I would be willing to start such a stable tree, I am thinking of taking
> >>> a current portage tree, delete all ~arch ebuilds and create an overlay.
> >>> Every time a security announcement is fired up I will add the newer
> >>> ebuild to the overlay, checking for any really needed depencies.
> >>
> >> ~arch doesn't hurt, so the main difference to glsa-check+standard tree
> >> would be old ebuilds not being deleted right?
> >
> > No, the advantage would be that new ebuilds would not come into the
> > portage tree. Only security relevant ebuilds, formerly which fix security
> > holes, would come into the tree (kernel, php, mysql, apache, etc. should
> > not be stopped from entering the portage tree).
>
> Sorry, I don't get it. Why are you concerned about packages in the tree
> you don't use? Is it about space savings?

Eh, no. In my opinion it is clear what I want to say, so I have nothing to 
add.

> > This has the advantage that there would be less packages to update when
> > the system has to be updated. And if there are security relevant updates
> > there would not be as much dependency updates as with the normal tree.
>
> The depgraph of a bumped package does not depend on being bumped due to
> a GLSA or not. If you only use glsa-check, you will get GLSA triggered
> upgrades only and glsa-check will emerge the lowest safe version
> possible. Keeping old versions around is sufficient to prevent unneeded
> upgrades. If you want something like "emerge -u --stable world", well
> then you would need a dedicated tree for --stable but thats way more
> work than just deleting ~arch ebuilds you wouldn't use anyway.

The ~arch ebuilds are not the point, the stable ebuilds which potentially be 
upgraded are the point. If you say that glsa-check does only update the 
package which is security relevant and tries not to update the dependencies 
then this is what I want.

Regards

Jan


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