Perhaps this is simply just a case of accepting there's 2 schools of though on how to keep a system upto date. If this is the case, Gentoo certainly doesn't' lend itself well to the school I attend, and clearly I'm not the only person who's there.
Alex Efros wrote: > very rare broke anything, so "constant" in this case doesn't result in > so many troubles as it sounds. > > in long term, :( while "constant updating" solve these issues without > introducing too many new problems. Twice you've suggested there are problems, and it's ok because there haven't been many. This really isn't the case. I can't afford to upgrade 10's of machines every week and test them all (mostly they do different things obviously). > Hmm... Again, x86 is stable enough to avoid such retesting on each update. > I agree it's nice idea to retest everything, but it's just impossible - No, it's not. On a 6/12 month cycle (or like ubuntu for example, I *think* it's 18) you get plenty of time to setup your stuff on some test systems and test them out properly. Perhaps giving them a week or two's worth of stress testing. > If some deeper problems arise in this app just because of database update > from 4.3 to 4.3.1 then it's probably because of bug in your app and it's > better to fix it NOW. I'm sorry, but that is just crazy talk ;) You clearly don't deal with PHP, where a point release can break a LOT of things, some things you might not notice by loading 2 or 3 pages from a website. > Probably this way isn't acceptable for you - I'm mostly administrate > servers dedicated for few complex apps, and it's ease to quickly check > them all after update. Can I ask how many? Perhaps this is just that you've not hit the point where it's just a PITA yet. I used to have no problem running 5 or 6 machines, but now it's just a nightmare. > Maybe 'Debian stable' is right choice for ppl who vote for 'stable > portage tree' - it has only very old, really stable packages and only > critical updates (I doesn't use Debian myself, so maybe I'm wrong about it). Or, some might suggest the answer for those that want a 'stable portage tree' is to provide... wait for it... it's a radical suggestion... a stable portage tree? :) Yours, occasionally sarcastically and no disrespect meant - Ian -- Ian P. Christian ~ http://pookey.co.uk
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