Hi!

On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 05:46:18PM +0200, Karl Hiramoto wrote:
> You have to understand that people in production environments can not do 
> this.  You can not risk a server being off line every few days..  If you 
> have 10 severs, doing this you would 1-2 hours a week doing updates.  
> With 100 servers, you may need a full time employee just to do updates.

I'm understanding this, and I'm working in production environment. :)
If you've 10+, or even 100 servers, then most of them usually have same
configuration (3-4 different configurations), and you can dedicate 1-2
servers for testing updates before installing them of all servers.

> I think perhaps a good suggestion would be for example:
> Gentoo enterprise release 2006.0  with it's own rsync mirror, then only 
> security update ebuilds, or major bugs get added to this rsync mirror.  
> This release could be timed with a official gentoo live cd release.
> 
> When the admins want to do a major upgrade, they point their rsync 
> mirror to 2007.0   for example.

Yeah, but, as I said before, this require many Gentoo devs dedicated for
this task... and these devs must not be newbies, they must be security
experts and strong QA. For now I don't see enthusiasm from Gentoo devs to
work on this task.

All other solutions like 'update once in 6-12 months' for my experience is
much worse than 'update constantly everything except selected packages'.

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                        WBR, Alex.
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