Stroller's Log: StarDate 1016.1134:
> On Oct 16, 2003, at 4:15 am, Bruce Kingsland wrote:
> > The why is that I have a s.l.o.o.o.o.w 28.8 connection for my home
> > network (linux based) and my friend has WinXP on a cable modem (115K)
> > where I use putty to do stuff on my linux box. My friend is not
> > interested in using linux (but I'll deal with that separately).
> 
> A stage 3 will give you only what you need for a minimal Gentoo install 
> - you can then download additional packages for each machine on the 
> LAN. However, as you have probably observed, stage3s are optimised for 
> different platforms, so no one will do all your machines - I don't know 
> what's on the 2 CDs you have found, but if they are images of the 
> retail Gentoo GRP 2CD sets, then they will contain useful but 
> non-optimised binaries.

   Index of /gentoo/releases/x86/1.4/livecd/x86

   x86-1.4-20030911-cd1.iso         13-Sep-2003 20:56  502M  
   x86-1.4-20030911-cd1.iso.md5     13-Sep-2003 21:06   59   
   x86-1.4-20030911-cd2.iso         13-Sep-2003 20:59  455M  
   x86-1.4-20030911-cd2.iso.md5     14-Sep-2003 19:44   59   

   Apache/2.0.40 Server at cudlug.cudenver.edu Port 80

Opening x86-1.4-20030911-cd1.iso with WinImage shows a stages dir with
a Stage1 file of ~11MB built 9/13/03. There's also a packages dir with
a whole bunch of tbz2 files. Are these all sources, or is just the
gentoo-sources file the one of interest. Perhaps booting from this CD
will be more informative. Do I have a tbz2 unpacker?

> Additionally, any Gentoo install CD is, by definition, out of date as 
> soon as the Portage tree changes, within hours of its completion.

Understood.

> The only way to solve these two issues - to get the current version of 
> packages & optimise them for your architecture - is to download the 
> source to packages. To be honest, I would probably just bite the 
> bullet, install from stage1 & `emerge -f whatever` before any emerge 
> (the "-f" fetches the packages, but does not compile them) - it won't 
> take *that* long to download them.

Extapolationg from the next paragraph, would 'emerge -fp ??? >> listFile'
get me a list of what is needed? Can that list be downloaded with wget?

> Since your friend has a fast connection, you could `emerge -Ufp world 
>  >> somefile.txt` on your Gentoo systems. This will give you a full path 
> to all the files you need to download (I think it is neatest if you 
> only have one mirror listed in the GENTOO_MIRRORS line of 
> /etc/make.conf). If you boot from a Gentoo or Knoppix CD  on your 
> friend's system, then you should be able to pipe somefile.txt into 
> wget, or write a one-line Bash to `for $PACKAGE in somefile.txt do wget 
> $PACKAGE done`, or something. Save the downloaded source tarballs on 
> the friend's hard-drive, then get him to burn them to CD for you.

I don't think I can reboot her system to the gentoo CD and still have
a valid cable connection. I don't have the details on the login stuff.
But if the emerge command results in file names, and a path to them, I
can fix up a batch file in the winbox to use wget to get them all, and
burn them to a CD for use on my home system.

> If you export the Portage tree as a NFS share on the first machine on 
> which you install Gentoo, you will then be able to access it 
> transparently from all the other machines on which you install. I would 
> advise this, as it will save you from downloading the same source 
> packages several times. When you install you will find that there will 
> be some upgrades to the base system, so that even if your machines have 
> different roles they will have a number of upgrades in common.

Is there a handy boot floppy that I can use for my laptop? It doesn't
have an onboard CD, but it does have an enet card in the PCMCIA slot
(a Xircom 10/100/56K) that I could use to access files on my local
network, and the CD in one of the desktop systems.

> if you search http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user you will 
> see that exporting the Portage tree as a NFS share has been documented 
> here a number of times.

OK, I'll review it.

-bk
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