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From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] Re: [gentoo-user] newbie: cant seem
to emerge telnet - any ideas?


> No, it's not meant to be a joke - I'm trying to help you.  I don't run
smtp
> so I can't duplicate the exact thing you're trying to do.  However, I have
> used ssh as a substitute for telnet when I had to connect to other
services.
> As a matter of fact I did run ssh localhost smtp before I sent the last
> message.  It asked to authenticate, then obviously, since I don't run smtp
it
> didn't find it.
>
> Look, you can do what you want.  My whole point was that in case you
didn't
> know it you might want to check out ssh.  You didn't tell us what you were
> trying to do.  Unfortunately, many people use telnet for a lot of reasons
and
> don't realize how insecure it is - I know I didn't and when I finally took
> the time and learned ssh it's all I use now.  But you may already know it
all.

How can someone give advice on security issues if he doesn't even know what
a 'telnet mailserver 25' can do????
That is basic networking knowledge. If you want to debug a mailserver telnet
is the best tool out there logon to a mail server.


I quote from some earlier post of yours:
"""I would assume ssh localhost smtp and see what you get back."""

I hate it if people try to sound smart if they come up with:

"Unfortunately, many people use telnet for a lot of reasons and
don't realize how insecure it is"

First time I emerge telnet I kind of was pissed that you cannot emerge
telnet daemon and telnet client as single packages, because I don't know how
much sense it makes to install telnet server on a linux box, but I'd rate
telnet client as a must have tool on any linux box.




>
> As I said - I was only trying to help.
>
> On Saturday 27 December 2003 12:05, you wrote:
> > Please check it before u send it here ...
> > is it meant to be a joke ?
> >
> > noro
> >
> > Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > >I would assume ssh localhost smtp and see what you get back.
> > >
> > >On Saturday 27 December 2003 10:08, you wrote:
> > >>Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > >>>Or use openssh instead of telnet.  It does everything telnet does and
is
> > >>>more secure.
> > >>
> > >>U must know something I do not ...
> > >>how can u substitute   " telnet  localhost smtp "
> > >>using ssh to check if mailserver is alive ?
> > >>
> > >>noro
> > >
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