I don't run smtp.  However, I have used it to check a service.  I did ssh -p 
xxxxx [EMAIL PROTECTED]  For this service I got a connected message indicating 
the service was listening.

Yes, ssh was designed as a secure way to connect and is recommended over 
telnet.

On Saturday 27 December 2003 12:57, you wrote:
> I was really thinking u know something I do not, because
> u said exactly: "It (ssh) does everything telnet does."
>
> Since it's a long time I last read ssh manual and I use
> telnet as very helpfull diagnostic tool for checking
> different net services (pop3,imap, smtp ..., but NOT for
> running remote shell) I was interesting how is it possible.
>
> If u do not run smtp server on your local machine, please
> do not hesitate to change "localhost" with any other smtp
> server, there is plenty of them on the inet, afaik.
>
> So there are only two possibilities:
> 1. u are wrong
> 2. I am unfamiliar with ssh
>
> I am afraid 1.  is true, but would be glad if not.
>
> noro
>
> Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> >No, it's not meant to be a joke - I'm trying to help you.  I don't run
> > smtp so I can't duplicate the exact thing you're trying to do.  However,
> > I have used ssh as a substitute for telnet when I had to connect to other
> > services. As a matter of fact I did run ssh localhost smtp before I sent
> > the last message.  It asked to authenticate, then obviously, since I
> > don't run smtp it didn't find it.
> >
> >Look, you can do what you want.  My whole point was that in case you
> > didn't know it you might want to check out ssh.  You didn't tell us what
> > you were trying to do.  Unfortunately, many people use telnet for a lot
> > of reasons and don't realize how insecure it is - I know I didn't and
> > when I finally took the time and learned ssh it's all I use now.  But you
> > may already know it all.
> >
> >As I said - I was only trying to help.
> >
> >On Saturday 27 December 2003 12:05, you wrote:
> >>Please check it before u send it here ...
> >>is it meant to be a joke ?
> >>
> >>noro
> >>
> >>Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> >>>I would assume ssh localhost smtp and see what you get back.
> >>>
> >>>On Saturday 27 December 2003 10:08, you wrote:
> >>>>Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> >>>>>Or use openssh instead of telnet.  It does everything telnet does and
> >>>>> is more secure.
> >>>>
> >>>>U must know something I do not ...
> >>>>how can u substitute   " telnet  localhost smtp "
> >>>>using ssh to check if mailserver is alive ?
> >>>>
> >>>>noro
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