On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly, > Grendel wrote: > I have seen a lot of nvidia stability related problems in ML's. > And personally had problems to make nvidia to work on VIA chipset > using proprietary drivers.
Most are due to linux's buggy ACPI implementations. VIA support is much better in the latest 5336 release. > Hmmm ... I never had troubles with xfree-drm and Radeon 7500. But how were the frame rates in 3d when compared with windows versions of the same application. > > IMHO NVIDIA provides the best support for linux 3d hardware accelrated > > cards. Just see how difficult it is to setup 3d under ATI cards. > > > > It depends, if u know it, it's really easy :-). The NVIDIA installer makes everything easy. > > Its the opensource nvidia (nv.o) drivers which are crappy and have poor 3d > > support, with poor 3d features. > > > > Fine, but it's only a logical result of fact, nvidia hide documentation. So does ATI for that matter. > > I am sure RMS (Richard Stallman) would be happy with a fanatical disciple > > of free software like you. > > > Today are 3D drivers very sophistcated, but if sources are open > mistakes can be easier patched and deceptions easier discovered. > (nvidia likes to do it, check google for "nvidia benchmark scandal") Hmm...Yes I know the incident but ATI also does it, all the major manufacturers tweak there drivers so that certain benchmark utilities like 3dmark, quake3, and splinter cell all run faster (or appear to run faster). Its commonplace and not really cheating. NVIDIA was forced to do this because the creaters of benchmark utility 3dmark2003 did not include real world 3d tests in that release, just some theoretical benchmarking which had no significant impact on the real world 3d performance (like games). 3dmark2003 were widely criticised for favouring ATI in there benchmark. > I would not be surprised if herd of trojan horses or some security holes > are discovered in nvidia drivers. Now you ARE letting your emotion run riot, lets say that if this were the case it would have been long detected by various firewalls and packet sniffers that the linux geeks use. Linux guys are more sophistcated and such spyware would have been detected instantly if this is the case. > > If the open source driver is better than the propritary one then by > > all means I will use the opensource driver, otherwise I will stick with > > nvidia.com. > > It's fine, u can make a choice ... IMHO. BTW IIRC ATI also has binary drivers right? For them its more competetiveness ie ATI dont want to let NVIDIA know how there 3dcards work and vice versa than anything else. > > At least they are decent enough to support linux in this way, so be > > thankful, there was a time when 3d card companies couldnt care about linux > > at all. > > This is only a question of linux spreadness. Or when the company is about to go bankrupt, old timers will recall 3dfx opensourcing there vodoo drivers. Grendel. -- Hi, I'm a signature virus. plz set me as your signature and help me spread :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
