On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 05/22/2010 02:24 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> On 05/22/2010 01:46 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >>>> On 05/22/2010 12:34 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>>>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >>>>>> This installed PulseAudio and rebuilt all applications to drop OSS
> >>>>>> support and use ALSA or Pulse instead.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> sure?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Never mind, found the problem after googling a lot:
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2010-January/023768.h
> >>>> tm l
> >>>> 
> >>>> PA does not work without ConsoleKit, yet the ebuild did not pull CK as
> >>>> a dep :-/  Will file a bug about it.
> >>>> 
> >>>> As for the results, it's pretty much as I expected: latency cannot
> >>>> compete with OSS4's vmix.  But it isn't worse than stand-alone
> >>>> ALSA+dmix though, which is surprising.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Another problem: Amarok 2 stopped working.  That is, it loads OK, but
> >>>> there's no sound at all when playing something with the Xine backend.
> >>>> The Gstreamer backend works, but (as always) sound quality sucks (pops
> >>>> and crackles).  Any way to get Phonon-Xine to work with PA?  I tried
> >>>> to set "audio.driver:alsa" in ~/.xine/config, but to no avail; still
> >>>> no sound.
> >>> 
> >>> yeah, with that set it tries to use alsa, not PA.
> >> 
> >> "audio.driver:pulse" also doesn't work :-/
> >> 
> >>> Why again are you wasting your time with PA?
> >> 
> >> Because people claim ALSA+Pulse is better than OSS4.  So I ought to
> >> actually try it "with a correct setup, unlike the broken Ubuntu setup",
> >> or else everyone will keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about.
> > 
> > really? There are people claiming that? ok, everything is better than
> > OSS4 - but PA? That crap is almost as bad as ESD.
> 
> Well if I'm going to use ALSA I need something that gives me
> per-application volume control since ALSA is too broken to even provide
> that while the rest of the world moved on.

funny how I can change the volume in wesnoth or vlc, independent from the 
rest. You are blaming the wrong people here. 

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