On 12/03/2013 00:45, Walter Dnes wrote: >> NAT is the context of an IPv6 discussion is *very* relevant, it's >> > one of the points you have to raise to illustrate what bits inside >> > people's heads needs to be identified and changed. >> > >> > Until you change the content of people's heads, IPv6 is just not >> > going to happen. > I disagree with you there. IPV6 adoption will be driven by shortage > of addresses, which people can understand. It will not be accomplished > by sermons about the evils of NAT whilst people's eyes glaze over. > "A preachment, dear friends, you are about to receive, is on John > Barleycorn, Nicotine, and the Temptations of NAT". > > And if it comes down to it, I'd much rather have IPV6 with IPV6 NAT > being available, rather than no IPV6.
Hmmm, I'm still not convinced. NAT (plus a whole boat load of other crap we've accumulated over the years, NAT merely being the well-known poster-boy) is so ingrained in people's heads it is now one of those things that we have to deal with. Ignoring it (and the other crap too) is not going to change that it really is up at the top of people's thought process. When I say "people" I of course mean "people I interact with". I don't claim to speak for all persons who deal with the internet somehow. Yes, we should and must pound away that IPv4 is a limited resource and it's close to being used up. But we still have to deal with the other objections that rightly or wrongly get dumped on the table too. Why do I think we must deal with these other issues rather than concentrate on the major one? Because the other guy won't let it go and won't really engage a discussion about IPv6 for real as he's sitting with all these other objections uppermost in his mind. Chief amongst them is the knowledge that he will have to redesign his entire network from scratch (we all know that IPv6 is not a drop-in replacement for IPv4) and the fear that somehow he has to keep business going and the lights on while doing it. That scares people. Well, that's my experience anyway. Some days it feels like getting Kuthrapauli to talk to women. We know all he needs to do is talk to them. He can't get past the thought that he has to find a glass of wine first... -- Alan McKinnon Systems Engineer^W Technician Infrastructure Services Internet Solutions +27 11 575 7585 -- Alan McKinnon [email protected]
