On 04/18/2013 04:02 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 18.04.2013 21:48, schrieb Michael Mol: >> On 04/18/2013 03:32 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> So, I grasped the nettle, put in a negative pulseaudio use flag, unmerged >>> pa and alsa-plugins, then rebuilt the 14 packages which needed it. >>> >>> Surprisingly, everything still works. I now get those last seconds from >>> my news streams. :-) >>> >>> So, yes, I can recomment the removal of pulseaudio, unless anybody's got >>> some particular need for it. >> IME, there is one application that all but forces the use of PulseAudio: >> Flash. Once Flash grabs onto an ALSA device, it doesn't let go, so you >> *must* route it through PA if you would like to reliably use it with >> anything else. >> >> My particular discovery was that if I launched WoW under WINE, and then >> launched a browser, audio in WoW worked fine. If I launched the browser >> first (which resulted in a flash applet being loaded in GMail for the >> purpose of audio notifications for google talk), Flash grabbed the ALSA >> device and no WINE application could get at it. Routing both through >> PulseAudio solved the problem. > > /I can have as many flash instances as I want and still listen to stuff > being played in vlc. Without pulseaudio crap. > > Maybe wine just sucks?/ >
Easy on the invective. Did you pay attention to the specific sequence of events I described? Or are you simply reporting that Flash works fine as an ALSA client along other concurrently reporting tasks, with no reference to the explicit order of the launch of things? Incidentally, WoW+WINE worked absolutely fine with other ALSA clients. It was only when Flash got added to the mix--and was launched first--that I had a problem. Further, if Flash was launched before PA (and ALSA apps weren't configured to route through PA's alsa wrapper), PA itself could not latch on to the sound card. Also, it's possible Adobe has since fixed the bug. This was a couple years ago, even before they added direct PulseAudio support to flash.
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