On 19/08/2013 15:23, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-08-19 6:04 AM, Alan McKinnon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It's not that separate /usr is broken - it's not.
>>
>> The issue is a separate /usr without an initramfs. And the issue ONLY
>> occurs at early-boot time.
> 
> And so, if this is the way it goes, this is the way it goes.
> 
> As long as I can keep using eudev - even *if* it requires an initramfs
> for a separate /usr (as long as it doesn't require one if you don't have
> a separate /usr)...
> 
> Can anyone answer *that* question please?
> 


Honestly, what you want is a full-fledged udev fork from just before
systemd tainted it, and fully maintained to go in the direction we
understood "classic" udev to be going.

eudev and even mdev are a step in the right direction, but I believe
they don't have enough muscle behind them, i.e. they end up cherry
picking useful bits out of udev-subsumed-into-systemd.

udev needs the same quality of maintainership now in a fork that it used
to have. And it's probably only a matter of time before someone with
those resources gets fed up with the current scene and does exactly that.

For me, I'm not opposed to merging /usr. I'm not opposed to other people
using systemd, I am opposed to *me* using it.


For your other question, you don't need an initramfs if your /usr is not
split off and drivers for your fs on / and chipset are compiled in. That
will stay true for ages to come (until some joker starts shipping kernel
drivers in /var....)

-- 
Alan McKinnon
[email protected]


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