On Apr 15, 2014, at 18:59, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> [14-04-15 17:33]: >> On 15/04/2014 09:14, Mick wrote: >>> On Monday 14 Apr 2014 15:35:00 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> >>>> The nvidia blobs do work well as long as you use them the way they were >>>> intended to be used. >>>> >>>> The way they were intended to be used is the same way Windows uses them, >>>> the Linux and Windows drivers share the bulk of the internal code and >>>> Linux feature set most definitely is not the driving force here :-) >>>> >>>> Which means some awesome things the X server can do simply do not work >>>> with the blob. The blob also rips out most of the OpenGL and framebuffer >>>> code and replaces it with it's own mysterious black magic, this can add >>>> more wrinkles. >>>> >>>> And finally, the Nvidia blob is not at all integrated with the kernel in >>>> any meaningful way, so your running kernel usually ends up 2-4 versions >>>> behind current. >>> >>> Would I be wrong to deduce from this that I would be better off with Radeon >>> cards instead of moving to NVidia? Out of coincidence I have been using >>> Radeon for ever it seems and I have had no problem that I recall with the >>> free >>> radeon drivers. No need to align suitable kernel versions with new video >>> card >>> drivers, or skip any driver versions, or much else. The only thing that I >>> had >>> to think about was how to sort out suitable firmware, but even this was >>> relatively easy. >>> >>> Many people slate Radeon cards and this had me thinking that I should >>> consciously make an effort to buy NVidia, but I am not as sure at this >>> moment >>> in time that this would not bring more problems than its worth? >> >> >> >> Would you be better off with a Toyota or a Nissan? Same answer: >> >> I don't see much difference. Both work, both have free and blob drivers, >> both are better at some things and worse at others. I really don't see >> any clear cut reason to choose one over the other for the general case. >> Never mind that some people will not touch one or the other with a barge >> pole no matter how much you pay them, I think they just have human bias. >> >> I've used both over the years, with free and blob drivers, and they >> always did what I need them to do - display a desktop and play movies. >> >> There will always be cases where some specific range of GPU and/or >> drivers just isn't up to snuff but I don't think that applies overall. >> >> You should go with the option that maximizes your own personal warm and >> fuzzy feelings :-) >> >> >> -- >> Alan McKinnon >> alan.mckin...@gmail.com >> >> > > To exegrate the whole discussion: > > "Help! I have a problem with Linux!" > > "...I have some heard of Linux...bad things...use windows instead!" > > So: Due to the already mentioned reasons I cannot use other hardware/ > other software. I need to get THIS running. > > Next question: How can I downgrade to the previous version of > nvidia-drivers/nvidia-settings/nvidia-cude-toolkit, which works > nice for me?
To go a little bit more off-topic... Has anyone setup a 3D display with NVidia GPU using HDMI? I have a new projector which supports the frame packing with full resolution 3D 1080p-signal. I have the modelines configured for all the formats I need. If I just force X to use a modeline 2205p the projector does obviously not recognize, cuz the signal does not specify the 3D-mode it is using... as described in the standard freely available to download for everybody. So has anyone got this working? Does it need a specific version of NVidia-drivers or firmware or hardware? -- -Matti
