On Sun, 05 Feb 12:00:15 -0500
Rich Freeman <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Floyd Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
That’s why Gentoo is often regarded as the freedom of choice.
This includes the freedom to shoot yourself in the foot.
He, nice allegory. Oh, and yes that’s what I like — you can but it
doesn’t have to be inevitable done. Sometimes it’s necessary to
hopefully learn something. Kids may believing you only *after* they
touched the hot plate. Long ago, I couldn’t believe a Linux is able to
destroy itself — until a mentor shows me.
I suggest that new users consider going with the defaults except when
they have a reason not to.
Sure, we can all pass around our make.conf files, and people can just
blindly copy what we're using. In a sense this is also stick with the
"defaults" - just somebody else's choice of defaults.
That remember me when I start using SciTE with Lua, Vim and Mutt. I saw
myself in front of tons of documentations and user experiences and I was
unable to wait for results. Copying just any stuff from a public .config
file repo without any clue what those things really do isn’t meaningful.
Someone would still stay at the point as before and when things gets
broken, frustration arise.
The difference is that if you don't do this then you're getting the
defaults the maintainer thought best, and the settings that get the
widest extent of testing. If you run into a problem, you're probably
close to the upstream configuration, which means both upstream and the
maintainer are probably going to be willing to lend you a hand.
You're also closer to the settings used by other distros, which means
their own documentation will help you.
Stick with the profile defaults to start. By all means tweak
something if you have a reason to, but make these conscious informed
decisions. Keep things simple.
This was my intention (as the result of earlier experiences) when Gentoo
comes into my life over two years ago. The only thing that bothers me
down to the present day, I cannot get hardware acceleration to work with
my GPU (Radeon HD 7870 XT). I’ve tested a lot USE flags, switched from
stable to bleeding edge and back. Now run on testing (mixed with a
stable toolchain and able to get free from a broken system by an
intermediate chroot) and hoping mesa from Git, Open Source AMDGPU and
kernel >=4.9 have pity with me someday.
When you start out with a very complex USE configuration on a distro
you're new to, then you're going to struggle a lot to deal with the
resulting issues.
In terms of profiles themselves, hardened isn't the friendliest place
to start. It tends to get used in server environments, and I suspect
very few run a desktop environment in a hardened environment. I'd
suggest chatting with others who run hardened to understand its
limitations. I've been running Gentoo for a very long time now and I
wouldn't expect to do a hardened desktop install and get through it
without a bit of troubleshooting.
Well, this hardened stuff looks interesting to me — at least when I
protect my browser profile — but I can wait opening those magic box.
Thank you for your suggestions and the kindly response. It should not be
locked up in a subthread. ;-)
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Best regards,
Floyd Anderson
